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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Oh really a negative agenda? Looking over what you have posted shows BSC had two teams that could be considered elite not two elite teams in each age group from 14 up. Those are also u18 and u19 teams. How many of those girls were developed at BSC? What are you trying to gaslight everyone? Seriously the ‘00 and ‘01 are the exception and not the norm for BSC and they do not go two teams deep. [/quote] First, there are several different posters in this thread, and I was not the one making the point about the strength of BSC's non-ECNL team that plays in the State Cup in each age group. I will let that person respond to you on that point. Second, no single club in VA or MD has a team that is the "best" team in that state in every single age group, let alone a top Region 1 team in every single age group. Go back and look at the YouthSoccer rankings. In MD, BSC has the top ranked team in 2 age groups, MD United in 3 age groups, and Pipeline and Rush in 1 each. In VA, McLean has the top ranked team in 2 age groups, VDA in 2 age groups, and FCV, BRYC and Richmond in 1 each. Your post implies that you rate a team "elite" if they are in the top 10 of Region 1. BSC's 2000 and 2001 teams fit that bill, and their 2005 team is #11 in Region 1. FCV is in the top 10 only for their 2001 and 2004 age groups. McLean is only in the top 10 in their 2001, 2002 and 2003 age groups. And look at the years in which those clubs don't have an age group ranked in the top 40. For BSC, it is their 2002 and 2004 age groups. For McLean, it is their 2000, 2005 and 2006 age groups. For FCV, it is their 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006 age groups (but to be fair, DA does not have a U16 age group, and thus FCV is not ranked in that age group). You make a claim that success of several teams at BSC is an exception, and not the norm. But that same logic would also apply to McLean, FCV and every other club in those YouthSoccer rankings. I never said, and I don't think anyone else in this thread has said, that BSC is the top club. I expressly said BSC is [u][b]one of[/b][/u] the top clubs, which I think is evidenced by their historical college commitments, their current college commitments, the current rankings of their top team in each age group U13-19 compared to other area clubs, the number of YNT team players at BSC, the quality and resumes of the top coaches, etc. Add all of this up, compare it to other clubs, and I think you would be hard pressed in showing that the facts do not support the claim that BSC is one of the top area clubs in the DMV. As for the "how many of the girls were developed at BSC" argument, this is one that is frequently leveled at BSC, McLean and the other clubs that were traditionally the only ECNL clubs in the area. This was also answered in another thread, so let me just copy and paste: "As anybody with older kids knows, all of the original ECNL teams in the DMV (i.e., clubs that had ECNL before DA existed and before the expansion of ECNL teams) attracted girls from outside their clubs who wanted to join an ECNL team. It is not a knock on BSC's ability to "develop" their own players if a girl from SAC's Blue team, for example, decided to join BSC's ECNL team. The same was true with respect to McLean if, for example, a girl left Loudoun's Red team (before Loudoun had ECNL) to join McLean's ECNL team. Under that old system, it would be stupid to fault any of those original ECNL teams for failing to have [b]ALL[/b] of the best girls in the DMV area in their U-Little program, since most parents of U-Littles pick a club that is "good" and is convenient to where they live. It is not until soccer gets more serious at the ECNL ages that parents (generally speaking) are more willing to drive further distances to have their kids play for a club that gives their child a better platform than their current club. Yet, you seem to imply that BSC, McLean, etc. are bad programs because their 2001 ECNL team, for example, is not comprised entirely of girls who started at those clubs in the U8 program. With the addition of the DA teams and the expansion of ECNL teams in the DMV in the last 2 years, the talent has been diluted, and you have seen significantly less girls switch to BSC, McLean, etc. than in the past, when those clubs were the only game in town. This was absolutely true for BSC's 2005 and 2006 ECNL teams (i.e., the two youngest ECNL teams). As a result, these are the two best teams to analyze to determine whether BSC is actually able to "develop" its own players and where those teams compare to other teams in the area. So let's look: The 2006 team played so poorly when they were U11s in EDP that they were demoted from the top EDP division to the second division in the spring of their U11 year and for their entire U12 year. Since tournament placement seems important to you, I would note that the 2006 BSC Blue team was placed in the 6th of 9 brackets at Jeff Cup last year. Surely, you'd say, this is evidence at BSC's failure to develop these girls. And yet, the 2006 BSC ECNL team finished 6th out of 15 teams in ECNL's NE division this fall (based on points per game), they are ranked #39 in Region 1 by youthsoccerrankings.com (ahead of FCV, McLean, Arlington, MD United, and both Washington Spirit teams), and they are in the 2nd of 13 brackets in this year's Jefferson Cup. This dramatic improvement was not the result of outside girls joining that team, as the entire 2006 ECNL team is comprised of girls who were previously U12s on BSC's Blue, White and Green teams. To say that again: the entire 2006 ECNL team were girls "developed" by BSC. These facts would seem to indicate that BSC did a good job developing these girls into one of the top area girls' teams. As for the 2005 team, they are ranked #11 in Region 1 by youthsoccerrankings.com (ahead of every team in VA, and ahead of MD United and Washington Spirit MD) and they are in the top of the 13 brackets in this year's Jefferson Cup. Again, these results would seem to indicate that BSC did a good job developing its girls into one of the top area girls' teams." [/quote]
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