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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]whats a too far commute and too young? the high level mini-documentaries about players out west seem to think an hour to two commute one way, while doing work in the car is bo big thing. maybe here we just dont want it enough and conplain too much too offset the potential of not succeeding. [/quote]

You're missing the point. To grow the sport in this country, and to eventually net a more talented national team, you need to expand the options, not cut them down.  It really does not matter what league is better or if there is a national super playoff. If you consolidate, such that an hour or two commute is necessary for some players, you will retire more of them early and never get to see what they might become.

The argument that you want the best to train with the best will always happen to some extent. That's why we have NTC, youth national teams, US Soccer scouts, ID sessions, showcases, etc. These things filter out the best and collect the cream of the crop. ODP was once a part of this but most local elite players think they are beyond it and do not participate (I'm mainly talking about the dearth of ECNL players in ODP these days). With the ECNL and DA coexisting, you do lose some average skill level at the local clubs in day to day practice, however the amount by which you might raise the average talent level at your local DA club by consolidation is trivial relative to the talent lost by the consolidation. It is the job of NTC and other select programs to find and offer the next level opportunities.

ECNL and DA are not the same. They present two different formulas to allow elite players options that fit their lives. So much the better for letting high level players as long as possible.

I think the folks clamoring for consolidation are the same folks who see the bottom half of the roster as filler keeping their children from getting more playing time and winning more. The priorities are still too involved with winning.  At 14, 15, 16 years you still do not know just how good players can become.[/quote]

Good points but I still think players with potential to learn higher level aspects of the game are held back.  Team need some players willing and able to try to execute more advanced strategies.  It is a team game and the entire team can struggle to move beyond the weak spots.[/quote]

A simplistic example but what use is a give and go if the play always ends after the give part?[/quote]

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