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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't see the point in eternal life. I'd rather have finite, but healthy & happy life, rather than "eternal." Quality not quantity, essentially. [/quote] So the thought of spending eternity in paradise with our Creator in perfect peace is unappealing to you? [/quote] We have different perspectives. [b]A "creator" of peace, is also the creator of suffering[/b], if all roads truly lead back to them as a creator of everything. And I'm not really interested in spending time with that kind of being. Ultimately this is simply not a worldview I could make myself believe in, if I tried. But honestly, the concept of eternity sounds incredibly boring. And I'm not exactly a thrill seeker. [/quote] NP here. This a million times over. [b]The Christian God seems like a narcissist, and the relationship with God that Christians promote sounds to me like an abusive, highly dysfunctional one. I also think paradise is a subjective concept. [/b] In a way, even the meaning of eternity is debatable. [b]Christians seem to assume it means an unending continuation of time.[/b] That's one meaning, for sure. But another meaning is being outside of time. Some religions have a different vision of eternal life after death, and it means that you experience eternity by escaping being-hood altogether. [b]That vision appeals to me more than the Christian version of sitting around in some sort of brightly lit paradise with a bearded old man who pretty much gets people to follow him by gaslighting and torture and then the ultimate guilt trip of "I sacrificed my son for you," when, you know, I never asked him to do that[/b].[/quote] The Christian God owes you or me zero explanations. Relationship with Christian God is clearly defined in the Bible and is older than me or you. Paradise is clearly documented place as witnessed in many Bible passages. We don't assume things about eternity. Eternity is documented in the Genesis and all throughout New Testament. It doesn't matter what appeals to you. What matters is if you will appeal to God. In Christianity, it's God's will first over human will. [/quote] The human arrogance that prompted Eve to bite the apple is on full display in this thread. God planted a beautiful garden, the Garden of Eden. It had beautiful trees with delicious fruit - everything a person would need to eat. Right in the middle of the garden were the "tree of life" and the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil." Then, The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." Of all the animals God created, the serpent was the most tricky and deceitful. He came to Eve and asked, "Really? None of the fruit in the garden? God says you must not eat any of it?" "Of course we can eat it," Eve replied. "It's only the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that we cannot eat. God says we mustn't eat it or even touch it, or we will die." "That's a lie!" said the serpent. "You won't die! God knows very well that when you eat it you will become like Him - you will know good from evil!" Knowledge won’t save you, and judging from posts, few want to be saved. That’s your decision. [/quote]
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