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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think this is one where context matters, and I don't have enough context for this tweet. If Ellen Degeneres tweeted that to someone she didn't know at all, it would be obviously inappropriate. On the other hand, if Ellen and Katy are friends and make those kinds of jokes to each other all the time and are both okay with it, then there's nothing wrong with the tweet. They do know each other but I don't know how well, so this incident falls somewhere in between those two ends of the spectrum.

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The problem with the latter is that it is public, not private, and normalizes this behavior.

I’ve always hated jokes like this but got “lighten up.” It seemed we were finally moving away from sexist remarks being funny... but I guess not.[/quote]

I completely disagree with you because I think your approach ultimately means inappropriate men still get to dictate the terms of discourse. They can't be expected to learn and follow rules of proper conduct, so now no one is allowed to make any comments even when they're not remotely inappropriate.

You hate jokes like this, so it's not appropriate for anyone to make those kinds of jokes to or about you. Not everyone shares you sensibilities on this, and shouldn't be restricted in how they interact with their friends by how you would feel if you were a part of it.[/quote]
You’re not getting it. The vast majority of those seeing the image have no idea what their relationship is.  If she made this private, no issue. Or if it was someone where it was clear there is a relationship. But to the average person she’s making a sexist statement to a peer.[/quote]

Actually, I do get it. I don't want a random man coming up to me on the street and putting his arm around me. Does that mean my husband should never do so while we're walking down a sidewalk? Should we never touch each other or hold hands in public because then it's open season on my body for everyone else? Does it matter if we're wearing wedding bands or not? No. Because it's my body, people whom I welcome to touch it are allowed to touch it. Others are not. I get to decide who touches me, not you.

You are, in your own way, victim blaming. If the victim didn't let people do these things when they are welcome, she wouldn't get harassed in unwelcome ways.[/quote]

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