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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This pressure to propose thing is only an issue on the Bachelorette though. Why? It plays into the stereotype that women are desperate for the ring, not the marriage. Rachel literally said [b]"gimme that ring!"[/b] right after Bryan proposed. Maybe it was editing, but my takeaway was that the proposal was more important than the marriage. The breakup with Peter was very raw and real and painful to watch.

I really respected her until last night, too, but she was a different person on the finale/ATFR. Just unnecessarily mean and cold to Peter. It was obviously a defense mechanism but I didn't think she handled it well when Peter was obviously hurting.[/quote]

Gross, I noticed that too. I am (sad to say, not my proudest moment) a long-time viewer of the show and I always pay attention to how much they look at the ring. They usually don't notice it at all right away. She was just gross.

She did not come off well AT ALL last night.[/quote]

Agree. And she and Bryan kept yelling something about showing off the ring. Then she was so cold to Peter, who was obviously hurting.

She seemed so sensible and charming before. Last night she came across as overcompensating, insecure, and even a little bitter. [/quote]

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