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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Actually, [b]I used to wish the cubscouts were more like the girls scouts[/b], who were more laid back, met after school at school and seemed less cultish.

Now I like the cubscouts but how good it is really depends on who is organizing it that year.  Why not be a Girl Scout leader and just do more typical boy things.[/quote]

And this is why it is a terrible idea to incorporate girls into cub scouts. (The bolded part, not the rest)

Cub scouts is an amazing place for young, active boys to learn in a single gender environment from strong older male (boy) role models. It is a place where they can act like boys (wild puppies) without the punishment they get at school where they are expected to behave like the most docile of girls. They run around, jump on each other, wrestle, poke, make fart jokes, etc and still manage to get it together to learn to behave like young men, become positive leaders, and accomplish something along the way.

This program is so strong because it has been carefully crafted over the years to teach boys in a way that works for most boys. The chaos and wildness of boys is okay. The active learning and silliness is not seen as a detriment. All of the behaviors that so many boys get the "red stoplight" at schools is celebrated and worked through in the single gender environment of Cub Scouts.

One of our county parks often has cub scout activities and camp outs in the same area as girl scout camps and activities. When you see the groups side by side, the differences are stark. The girl scouts are orderly and well behaved. They hike in lines, holding hands with their partners or at least in an orderly grouping, more or less doing what they are supposed tp be doing. The cub scouts of the same age are all over the place, noisy, wrestling, running around, literally like herding cats. The boys are engaged in very chaotic and active learning, and that is great. But it would not longer be like that if the Cub Scouts were coed. That type of learning would be branded as too wild, too noisy, disruptive and distracting, just like in school, and so many boys would lose this place to learn in a way that is best for them.

The moms involved in scouting get this for the most part, but opening scouts to girls at large will change all that is good about [b]Boy[/b] scouts for [i]boys.[/i]  Some girls will see the value of how boy scouts is run, but a lot, if not most of them will not. They will push and change, and soon many if not of the things that make Boy Souts a good place for boys to learn and grow into men will be changed and stripped away until it is not the same organization and no longer gives the same benefits to boys.

If you want what boy scouts has for girls, then fix Girl Scouts.  Make it better and stronger. Try to mirror the things you like about boy scouts and put a girl scout spin on it.  But don't try to open Boy Scouts to girls. That is a horrible idea.
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