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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous] Have all those steps been done? "I asked, "If the data is stored in the cloud, how would providing the server help?" You found that "very telling". Could you please answer the question?" I said IF a cloud or server farm was used, they should also be examined. All we hear about is a server. If you are a SME, then you know there should be a thorough investigation of audit logs, firewalls, intrusion detection and prevention systems, DNS and LDAP services, domain controllers, authentication servers, routers, switches and all the network infrastructure, correct? You keep telling me everything is OK. Well, is it? Please, go ask your spokesman and get back to me, because your "Comey said" isn't working. Does Crowdstrike have access to the information the FBI does on previous hacks for indicators of compromise, classified intel, etc? How closely are the FBI and Crowdstrike working together? [/quote] You are contradicting yourself. You are correct that firewalls, IDSs, and other systems should be investigated. But, those things are separate from the server. The server is completely irrelevant to those things. Giving the server to the FBI would have no impact on those other devices. So, why did you start a thread that focuses only on the server? I realize that you are making this up as you go along and actually have no idea what you are talking about, but maybe think things through a bit more? I love your response about the cloud, "I said IF a cloud or server farm was used, they should also be examined." Well, duh. But, you don't need the server to do that. In fact, if all you have is the server, you couldn't do that. Hence, my "very telling" question. The FBI has confirmed that they have been provided sufficient data. Can you again explain on what basis you question their findings? You appear to consider yourself quite the expert, but are unable to explain why you -- with no access to the data -- are better able to make determinations then those who actually have the data. [/quote] I'm not contradicting myself. It's an incomplete investigation and everyone knows it. The DNC is stalling and stonewalling. "But, those things are separate from the server." No! Really. Do tell. You confiscate all the infrastructure at the same time for examination. The server and any data in a cloud setup or a server farm should be investigated. Comparisons will have to be made for time stamps, when maliciousness supposedly took place and to do that, you need all components. "The FBI has confirmed that they have been provided sufficient data." - The person stating that is giving a political answer. Furthermore: " Do you dispute the determination that Russia was behind the hack? " So who was it, since you seem to know so much? The FSB? The GRU? The SVR? Some other organization? You sure it wasn't China using Russian infrastructure. Just spitballing Jeff, but since you know so much, who exactly was it? Are you sure it wasn't an eastern european crime syndicate? What are you basing your attribution on?[/quote] I worked in a secure and. In secure environment and when classified or even unclassified data meant for certain people to see was inadvertently disclosed it was common for us to shit off service to sanitize. You're correct, investigating the infrastructure to include any back-end storage and cloud based storage and backups is crucial. I specifically remember one place I worked that was compromised by China, they got in through phishing schemes. We worked with a reputable forensic team from a good firm and we narrowed it down to the exact building and GPS coordinates from where the attack came from. You can do that. As noted by the PP, there can be more investigation[/quote]
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