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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This profile isn't all that different from 20 years ago. When I got into H I had:
* 3 sports, captain in one, multiple year coach's award in another
* Major statewide competition winner 2 years running
* President of National Honor Society
* Class president
* Don't remember GPA, but it was good
* SAT: 800 V, 690 M, 800 W
* Founder of one school club, officer in others

The only thing I don't remember was counting community service hours. That seems new to me. Although if it had been a thing, I would have had a lot.

I know that admissions for HYPS+ have become somewhat more competitive. But I don't buy that it's an order of magnitude difference, or that "the profile" is an unreasonable or superhuman ask.[/quote]

I got in at the same time, and I agree that it's not an order of magnitude, at HYPM anyway. They took only the very best from my high-profile public--national level debaters, a few math people, etc. Only legacies had it much easier than today. The top-tier publics were much easier to get into though, as were some of the non-HYP Ivies.
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