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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]in Baltimore gentrification could proceed without displacement[/quote]

Displacement is crucial for successful end-stage gentrification

The people willing to pay $400,000 for a painted lady (google it) with no parking or a 5,000 sq ft warehouse loft space don't want to live amongst the original population. They want to be surrounded by people like them, not by hoodrats. [/quote]

This sounds like trolling to me.   And of course the experience in DC, Alexandria, NYC, etc is quite different. [/quote]

Just an owner of a company that's made a very good run of renovating homes in places where gentrification is occurring.

I've been able to see and study it up close since 1986, when we did our very first home remodel in a run down ghetto called "Logan Circle".

And if you knew the whole history of Georgetown, instead of just what you think you know, you'd realize how right I am.

Gentrification has stages. Georgetown represents the end-stage. U-street is advanced mid-stage. H-street NE is early mid-stage. Minnesota Ave NE and  Alabama Ave SE is early-stage.

The gentrifiiers that can afford the mid-stages, can't afford the end stage. And they're being used, as a tool, by the people who CAN afford it, to push out anyone who used to live in that neighborhood, and make it suitable for them. It seems it takes about 15 years or so to make the transition from each stage, based on what I've seen.

So no one really cares that it "sounds like trolling" to you.

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There are still low income people in Shaw, in Navy Yard (and more coming back) etc due to committed affordable housing units.  Maybe you think that will not lead to "end stage"" gentrification, but I would suggest that if any particular Baltimore neighborhood gets to the point that Shaw or Columbia Heights or the part of the Hill near Potomac Gardens or SW waterfront are now, that would sufficient success.  I note that there are many parts of Manhattan, including on the UWS that have proximity to large public housing projects. If those are not at "end stage"  gentrification, I am not sure what the term means.

It sounds like trolling because you appear less concerned about the RE market in Baltimore  in general, than about saying nasty things about poor POCs, and setting up a flame war between POCs and those who support gentrification - again, wrt a city where there is plenty of room for gentrification without displacement.  (Also you appear to be conflating change at the neighborhood level with change at the city level).

Now realistically its hard for Baltimore to get a scenario like Shaw because of the lack of employment relative to DC or NYC.  But A. that point could have been made without the inflammatory opening post B. It is mostly due to factors other than Baltimore's demographics.  Being national capital or world financial capital is a big boon to a city, whatever its demographics are. [/quote]

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