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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is it a golden retriever?  I found mine was not easy to train as he pulled all over the place.  Puppy class was time for him to go nuts, he would do quickly what instructor asked and then start trying to pull to other people for frenzy cuddling session!  Quite frankly, trainer had no idea what to do with him, highly recommended trainer too! Once he was older, we used prong collar for walks, and it helped a lot. Trainer actually put my dog out to train one on one with another dog outside, away from her class. She was all, no this collar, not that collar, and I said here you do it, and she couldn't![/quote]

Did you try an Easy Walk harness, or a Gentle Leader head halter (with lots of patience)? I can't believe you use a prong collar on a Golden Retriever! 
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Yes, I tried them, Gentle Leader made him so irritated he was just rubbing and rubbing, Harness caused him chafing and then huge infection when he kept biting and licking the spot.  Prong collars are used in Germany and I ever read about the studies carried out throughout the life time of dogs, that there is no evidence they cause any neck trauma.  You have to know how to use it.  I knew it wasn't hurting my dog whatsoever, and he was pulling even with it like nuts. I didn't use it at all when he was a puppy, at all.  I used it for a short period of time. We are talking powerful frenzied male golden, at the time he was almost 80lbs.  (As a side note, he is now 69 lbs, with a lot of work.) You do not pull and correct non stop, just if really needed. I trained my dog, who was my first dog after instructor failed utterly.  With a very loose regular collar now, he is the best behaved dog of any we encounter. This dog is from a pure hunting dog line and his sire is enormous active white/golden retriever. So, judge all you want, but when he was a year old, and so nuts, I had to control him and make sure he never caused anybody harm, because he loved to run to people if he could. Some dogs have very high threshold for correction and that was my dog when younger. Imagine if I let that 80lbs basically puppy ran to kids playing outside?  All he wants is a cuddle, but injuries are bound to happen. It would have been way more damaging using a regular collar as I would have to jerk him all the time.  So, please educated yourself first.  Obviously you don't want prong collar right off the bat. We used it only for walks and corrected only when need.  Much better than what I see on the streets with dogs on a regular least, hurling themselves up in the air when on a walk and being brought down over and over and over again.[/quote]

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