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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Can I get an unbiased explanation of the point Vance was trying to make with his immigration fact, checking? Was it that the immigrants came here illegally and not vetted?[/quote]

Vance attempted to mislead about the situation by equating two separate programs. The Haitians in Springfield are legally in the U.S. due to temporary protected status. Vance referred to them as being illegal which is what led to the factcheck. Vance then tried to claim that they were really here under a different program that involves an app and which he and others allege is rife with fraud. Even that second group would be legal, so even if he wasn't discussing the wrong program, Vance would still be wrong to call them illegal. His point, I believe, is that the second program is so filled with holes that those coming here under it are de facto, if not de jure, illegal. [/quote]

So we have a process where Democrats can circumvent US immigration policy/ the intention of immigration laws and just fly immigrants wherever they want and flood communities? Yeah nice.
PS Are you "friends with school shooters" too.[/quote]

The process is legal and does not circumvent the law. Every aspect of Biden's immigration policy has been subject to legal action. If this was not legal, it would have been as well. For that matter, it would probably be challenged even though it is legal.

Regardless, the app has nothing to do with the Haitians in Springfield. But I assume that you, like Vance, have no problem with racist stereotypes. Are you also a White supremacist?
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The process that Biden used, while quasi legal, completely circumvented accepted immigration laws and  policy.. [b]Temporary Protected Status[/b] was created to bypass laws and is not how immigration is supposed to work.
Your knee jerk "white supremacist" comment basically shows your ignorance you regularly demonstrate when you lose an argument.[/quote]

When was TPS created? 1990.

And you probably just 'discovered" it in the last two months. Who was president in 1990? A republican. In the intervening 24 years, a republican has been in the white house for 14 of those years - a majority, and no one complained about it until now. the GOP had plenty of opportunity to eradicate it if it had wanted to, including when Trump was in the white House with a majority House and Senate and yet he did nothing. Why do you think anything would change in the future?[/quote]

My point was Biden/ Harris has abused it.[/quote]

In what way? It’s been in place since the 2010 earthquake. Why Trump regularly extend it while in office if it’s an abuse?

Extra credit question: why did Trump grant it to Venezuelans if it’s so terrible? [/quote]

"Vance, Trump had 4 years to get rids of TPS, why didn't he do it?"[/quote]

You can be disingenuous as much as you like.
The point is Biden misused this to get the Haitians here and we both know it will be anything but temporary.[/quote]

Uh, the Haitians in Springfield came when Trump was president. I bet that you will embrace them now, right?[/quote]

Uh, if you can't grasp the massive millions of illegal immigrants that have crossed our borders that is DIRECTLY the fault of Biden, I can't help your stupid ass.[/quote]

Resorting to name calling when being called out not only on your initial false assertion but each additional false assertion when called out is a "look." [/quote]

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