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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Won't requote pages of opinions. Here's the only reason that BL pleading 5th is a moot point. I only posted 3 relevant facts in this thread.

1. The one hour bodycam video of police intervention
2. The video link to van location submitted to FBI and then posted to social media that led to her body within 24 hours
3. [b]The transcript and update of a 2nd witness call to 911 stating BL hit, slapped and locked GP out of van[/b]

The officers are at fault. Whether the dispatcher screwed up, the officers ignored, or both...BL would have been arrested on DV charges and jailed.

Things may have turned out differently, as a result. Maybe not. Timing is important.

One more thing. I've not posted an opinion on anything, just facts. Now I will. She had 2 sets of parents, and friends who were aware of BLs controlling behavior. That's 4 parents, one friend who's given interviews. Not a single one flew Gabby home, or got on a plane to bring her home. She was failed by the LE, the system, and her family. The only victim is Gabby.

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He would have been booked and maybe spent a night in jail. That maybe would have changed the outcome based on emergency protective order, but those are only worth the paper they’re written on especially when two people are living in a van away from most of their associates and can generally get back together without much oversight from any other party. These situations are really complex. I do wish it was different but generally even being booked on DV charges (esp first time misdemeanor) rarely alters the trajectory of these relationships.

Again I do really wish it was different. But I think there’s not as much enforcement as people think on these kind of charges. Even if it did make it to court one way or another. They need cooperation to some extent from the victim, but the victim is in a position where that’s hard or unsafe or impossible to do at the time. And sometimes it is even more dangerous in a sense to leave someone with those behaviors feeling like they have nothing left, since they’re not going to get a life sentence. Even as the family there is only so much you can do. You yourself are also in danger, being lied to and misled. Trust me, I have sadly been through this. I have a sibling who survived an attempted DV murder. My sibling did eventually escape, but it was not a linear process at all and protective orders were violated (even when a judge refused to remove the protective order as requested). We had a woman in the DC area who was killed this past year when her attacker was released from jail pending charges. And that was in a rare case where a judge actually approved holding someone for a period of time, but then allowed their release because the trial was delayed. In VA with charges like BL would have faced based on that body cam, the court process can be dropped by settling “restitution” with the victim and cases are often settled/dropped this way. [/quote]

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