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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]/\ ...and blaming the drunk person only seems to happen in cases of sexual assault. [/quote]

What? Not true.

First, it's not victim blaming to point out how reckless it is to black out anywhere. It's a teachable moment IMHO.

If a drunk passes out and gets robbed, people would have the same reaction: sucks that you were robbed---robbery is a crime---you might not have been robbed had you not been passed out/walking down the dark alley/walking across the campus alone at 2am. Rape, robbery, falling in a ditch, whatever. A person's actions usually play a role. Pointing that out isn't victim blaming though. It's just a fact. [/quote]

Yes, you are victim blaming. [/quote]

[b]If I'm sh*t faced drunk at a bar and I tell a guy that he can have access to the money in my purse.  I smile and open my purse and show him the money.  And he happily takes my money and buys himself dinner, appetizers and drinks.  I wake up in the morning to find my money all gone.  I'm not sure what happened to my money.  Since I don't remember what happened to my money that means that it must have been stolen.  Right?[/b][/quote]

Wow.[/quote]

Yes WOW.  I use that analogy because I think that it demonstrates a gray area that is usually present in date rape scenarios.  Rarely does date rape involve a 100% non-responsive unaware person.  Drinking your self black out drunk is serious.  You do things and agree to things that you may not otherwise agree to.  You may pass out in the process. You can not assume that other people are going to look out for you and act in your best interests.   That goes for men and women.  You need to look out for you.

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Wow again. Your POV helps perpetuate this culture. [/quote]

And you want it to be safe for women to get drunk/drugged out of their minds to the point where they have no clue where they are.  That isn't going to happen.  Ever.

Take responsibility for yourself or risk becoming a statistic because like it or not - when you drink yourself into a stupor like that the odds of something bad happening to you go WAY up.  That goes for both men and women.[/quote]

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