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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer[/quote]

Just stop. 
The draft opinion stated 
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature.  It is not an abortion.  [/quote]

In medical terms it is an abortion. Are you unfamiliar with the technical definition of abortion?

At any rate, prove that a miscarriage wasn’t self-induced. That is what Republicans will start asking. Just as conservatives in countries that ban abortion have done. And if a pregnancy is failing but the heart activity is still detected, doctors will risk sepsis instead of terminating. As has already happened. [/quote]

This. Any medical intervention during a miscarriage is labeled as an assisted abortion. You can tell that many people who have an opinion about this actually don't have the facts[/quote]

They write like 20 year old boys. They probably are. [/quote]

Nope.  Older woman here who has actually had a miscarriage.

When speaking of "abortion rights," a miscarriage and abortion are very different things.  While a miscarriage is medically referred to as a "spontaneous abortion," there is no "choice" in a miscarriage.  It is an act of nature.  
Abortion, on the other hand, is very much about choice.

[quote]Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a "spontaneous abortion."
Abortion is a term that refers to the termination of a pregnancy. This can occur with medical intervention such as medications or surgical procedures or it can occur on its own.

A miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion, and refers to a pregnancy loss before the 20th week of gestation or the expulsion an embryo or fetus weighing 500 g or less. Miscarriage at this stage occurs in about 31% of pregnancies.[/quote]

https://www.emedicinehealth.com/what_are_abortion_and_miscarriage/article_em.htm[/quote]

Did you require medical assistance to complete your miscarriage?  Because that assistance is what some of us are saying could be put in jeopardy here.[/quote]

An incomplete miscarriage is what killed Savita Halappanavar, the Irish woman whose death from being denied an abortion helped lead to Ireland legalizing abortion in 2018.

[quote]Halappanavar arrived at hospital on October 21, 2012, complaining of lower back pain that had lasted for around 12 hours. She was 17 weeks into her first pregnancy at the time.

After examination, doctors found that Halappanavar's pregnancy was inevitably going to fail due to complications and she was admitted that same day. On October 22 her water broke but the fetus was not expelled.

[b]On October 23, Halappanavar and her husband asked whether her labor could be induced since they did not want to wait longer than necessary if the pregnancy was to fail anyway. They were told by a consultant that this was not possible under Irish law—they had not identified adequate risk to the patient.[/b]

Over time Halappanavar's condition worsened and she was diagnosed with sepsis on October 24. That same day she miscarried and delivered the fetus. She was admitted to an intensive care unit on the morning of October 25, and her health continued to worsen.

Halappanavar died on Sunday, October 28. The cause of her death was documented as multi-organ failure following sepsis and E. coli infection.

A report into the case found that there had been failings in the care that Halappanavar received, including that health staff did not recognize early signs of infection that might have spurred them to terminate pregnancy earlier due to a threat to her life, which would have been permissible according to The Life Institute.[/quote]

https://www.newsweek.com/roe-wade-savita-halappanavar-abortion-pregnancy-case-ireland-1702913[/quote]

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