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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1) I still don't think it's a coincidence that the only place Blake didn't have trouble with Justin during the first half of the movie was on the plane with her children. Twisting claims about the plane ride would be a bridge too far for her, especially because it could involve her children having to give testimony.

2) For those of us who do believe she lied about being SH'd, I do wonder why she stopped with the claims during the second half of the movie? Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering why not just continue twisting things? [/quote]

PP answering my own questions now, but I guess it's because she got what she wanted. That's the thing though: Justin Baldoni is apparently such a sex pest and lacks such self-preservation instincts that he's willing to harass the wife of one of the most powerful men in Hollywood, but he magically stops during the second half of the movie? If he was brazen enough to lack self-control during the first half of the movie, he wouldn't magically stop during the second half. If anyone can truly be harassed by anyone, then we'd have to concede that fact patterns don't matter and sexual harassment is not worthy of academic study. It's not worth looking into any patterns because any man could start spontaneously harassing you. If people truly believed this, I think this would ironically discourage people from looking into any "red flags," making them even more unsafe. [/quote]

I don't get the sense that Lively's allegations are that Justin is a "sex pest" who lacks self control. She's not suing him for sexual assault and her complaint doesn't indicate that she felt he was trying to hit on her or have sex with her.

It's a hostile work environment claim. Her argument is that his behavior on the set and in their working relationship was sexually inappropriate, boundary violating, and sometimes sexist in a way that made it hard for her to do her job. I think people get the "sex pest" idea because of the allegations from Justin that Ryan called him a sexual predator. But Blake's complaint doesn't make him sound like a sexual predator at all. It makes him sound kind of tone deaf and chauvinist at times, and the stuff around the birth scene in particular indicates he may have some attitudes about women that made women on the set feel uncomfortable or not listened to. The alleged incident with Jenny Slate is in the same vein -- Heath supposedly said something that felt diminishing or judgmental regarding working moms (very unclear what exactly happened but that's the gist I can get).

Anyway, the allegations are that Baldoni and Heath were inappropriate and made people uncomfortable, not that they were sex pests. That can still be sexual harassment. I really don't know if what happened on this set rose to that level, and neither do you, but it's important to understand the nature of what is being alleged. At no point does Lively allege that Baldoni was coming on to her, only that his behavior was sexually charged and gendered in a way that made her feel uncomfortable to a degree that interfered with her ability to do her job.[/quote]

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