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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm so confused - what's all this playing down talk even about? It's always been a 12 month calendar, and it is still going to be a 12 month calendar. [/quote] It was a 12 month calendar starting on 1/1 ECNL USYS and other mostly littles leagues like SOCAL will be changing from 1/1 to 8/1 * * Because school districts start at different times. Theres a possibility that Aug birthdays could play down a grade instead of on a team with players their grade in school. ECNL + others will implement a rule not allowing this to address and avoid the issue. The other playing down comments are by some High School (probably private) parent thats introducing GY into the discussion to confuse everyone and get GY into youth soccer. Which will never happen.[/quote] Thanks for the breakdown. As to the first point, Aug kids playing down a grade isn't playing down if they're inside the 12 month window, but I can see why people are using the phrase "playing down" even though it is not "playing down" in the true sense, i.e. playing down in age to gain an advantage. I'd be surprised if they make rule a forcing kids to play outside their 12-month window to their potential disadvantage. Seems like they picked Aug. 1 to give those kids the option, which most kids will likely choose to play on grade anyway. But forcing someone to play with older kids doesn't seem to be the best option. As to the second point, I don't see that happening either. Soccer has always been a 12 month system. Maybe those people clamoring for true GY can switch to basketball or lacrosse. [/quote] Allowing Aug birthdays to play on a team with kids a grade below them has no upside. Not allowing Aug birthdays to play on a grade below them team guarantees that everyone on the field during games will be graduating the same year. Which is what college recruiters want.[/quote] But we're not just talking about kids who want to be recruited, etc. We're talking about the entire soccer ecosystem. I don't disagree that there is little upside, but if you're a small Aug. kid forced to play with an older age group, then there could be a really big downside. The key is to not force those kids to do anything. If they want to and are fine with playing a grade below, then go for it. I think they would understand the difficulty with recruiting, etc. if that was something on their radar to begin with. If they want to play on grade, but be young, then go for it too![/quote] Every time a player plays down with younger players they take a spot away from a player thats the correct grade/age. I like how all the SY people are trying to distance themselves from grade in school when this is what they told everyone was the primary reason for switching from BY. Theres 2 ways you address the playing down issue. You can change the eligibility window to 13 months and qualify to 13th month for grade enrolled (SY+30). Or you keep it 12 months but make a rule that the 11th month (Aug) isnt allowed to play down on a team with players a grade younger. I get that you're want to keep things "fair" with the same eligibility window for all players. But this just isnt possible if you want to field teams where all players are rhe same grade in school. Also the 12 month window is arbitrary theres nothing set in stone that its how things have to work.[/quote]I can't see how if you were for BY that you would care about school grades at all. Unless you were hypocritical and just want an advantage for your kid.[/quote]
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