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[quote=Anonymous]They remind me of the kind of couple the therapist  esther perel has had on her podcasts, where she pretty quickly cuts across the fantasied unconscious pact they made and meets them when they seek help after they hit the painful, confusing and shocking bottom. She sees through the dynamic in about 20 seconds. And then the whole idealized thing comes into the light of day and the listener just ends up eventually feeling really sad for all of the profound loss, insecurity, and unacknowledged trauma in the history of both people. They are both in the throes of fantasy and I have always viewed lopez as a possible sex addict/workaholic and people seem reluctant to admit that (maybe a "love addict" as she has suggested and possibly sugar-coated sounds better?) And he is certainly an addict,  that's a given. They are both addicts, and have the impulsively, withdrawal from reality and narcissism that often goes with it. What's that phrase about addicts? Something about being the most grandiose but deeply insecure people. She reminds me a lot of Tom Cruise actually, major defenses and efforts at pr that are so completely over the top and underneath is someone with their own bizarre grandiose ideas, with a mind that has a a whole superstructure of narcissistic beliefs and behavior. For these two to stand out as narcissists in Hollywood which is teeming with them really says something.[/quote]

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