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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Interesting.

DDOT said the configuration:

-will not impede emergency vehicles
-will not be an issue as an evacuation route
-will not impact "cut through" traffic

So basically everything the project opponents claimed was a lie. They just didn't want bike lanes, even if the proposed solution is worse, which it is.

I guess that is a win?[/quote]

Did anyone ever think this was about anything other than parking?

Hell hath no fury quite like an Upper NW boomer threatened with the loss of his parking space.

Or, as Mary Cheh was fond of saying, all politics are local and all local politics is parking.

They kept their parking spaces so, yes, for them it’s a win.[/quote]

Connecticut Ave will go on a road diet, just not with bike lanes.  Curb extensions will reduce the distance that pedestrians, particularly elderly residents and kids, need to cross at certain intersections.  So Connecticut will be safer, which was what Safer Connecticut Avenue wanted.  DDOT seems to be leaning to another north-south bike lane route, like Reno Road.  [/quote]

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The basic difference between what is proposed and "Option C" is an additional lane for parking.

The downside here is that without a facility for bikes, scooters etc, and with buses using the right side travel lane, it will be a mess because cars will be stuck behind both the cyclists and the buses, killing any throughput advantage that might have been gained with bike lanes.

The pedestrain safety components are roughly the same.

And Reno Road as an alternative is a non-starter. Too narrow and hilly, with no obvious destinations. You will still have cyclists using ConnAve because that is where the shops, library etc are located.[/quote]

There aren't enough bicylists to matter.  There is no throughput advantage to bike lanes.[/quote]

There could be a million cyclists and it still wouldn't matter to you.[/quote]

There could be a million bicyclists and they would still insist they didn't see any.[/quote]

My opinion is irrelevent.  The simple fact of the matter is that there aren't millions, thousands, or even hundreds of bicyclists on Connecticut Ave.[/quote]

You keep saying this and it simply isn't true. The stat you cite was COMMUTING, like daily, downtown. There are still hundreds of cyclists using Connecticut Avenue to go to school and run errands. Those are not factored in the MWCOG survey.[/quote]

Firstly let's put this straight out in the open.  You clearly don't live near or use Connecticut Ave, north of Calvert.

Secondly, the number comes from DDOT which counted the number of bicyclists, just as they did cars.  They have never released the exact number but they used a de minimis number of 100 as their estimate.  That means we know it is less than 100.

Please remember that all numbers are done on a full year daily average basis.[/quote]

They counted in the street. Not the sidewalk.  Also, they updated that low stat observed in 2019 in like september 2022 and it was far higher by then.[/quote]

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