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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One of the most surprising things for me about these threads is how strongly people defend every little thing that is reported about Baldoni or Heath. It is unfortunate that so many still see sexist behavior by men as appropriate for the workplace and see Jenny Slate and Blake and other women involved as whiners who need to just sit down, shut up, not complain and take whatever comes their way. [/quote]

Still trying to make fetch happen. If sexist behavior in the workplace had occurred then yes, it is not acceptable. Your argument doesn't work because it did not happen.[/quote]

I guess for me it did. For example Jenny reported that he had called her sexy and made her uncomfortable. Yet all the responses to that were blaming women. To me, that is sexist behavior in the workplace. I don't feel my colleagues should be able to call me hot or sexy and that I am supposed to take that as a compliment and just accept it. There are multiple reports from a quite a few women about being uncomfortable on the set due to behaviour from Jamey and Justin and yet that the blame for that is all on the women who need to just not be so sensitive.[/quote]

Because the behaviors were not that out of the ordinary when they were in a movie with a lot of love scenes.

Why was it OK for Blake to tell Justin that he should really do something about his nose and consider a nose job? Apparently she was kidding, but I’m sure in a normal workplace that would not be tolerated.

Why is it OK for her to send him a text that once he gets to know her he will learn  ball busting is her love language and it’s spicy and never with teeth. You’d be OK with your husband getting a text like that from a coworker?

Why is it OK for Ryan to text Justin referencing his perineum?

None of these things are OK - none would be tolerated in a normal workplace, but this is Hollywood and things are different. It seems like Ryan and Blake can play by different rules but everyone else must act 100 percent buttoned up and if they don’t, they will just take small innocuous incidents and twist them wildly out of context. [/quote]

They clearly were out of the ordinary given that it was the multiple women who work in that environment all the time who reported their discomfort with the comments and behavior. They are part of Hollywood, they know what is typical on set and on this particular set almost all the women whose dispositions we have read so far report inappropriate behavior. We will see when more are released if other women also felt the same. At some point your belief that all these women are wrong and liars and shouldn't have any expectation of appropriate behavior on set and were wrong to report it, and that Justin and Jamey did no wrong and are being unfairly attacked just gets farther and farther from the facts and the truth. I do think Blake also behaved in inappropriate ways. I have no issue saying that too. And if her comments made people uncomfortable, they should have reported that as well. [/quote]

But many of the claims of discomfort have been exaggerated or out of context. Jenny Slade not wanting to hear Heath’s view on motherhood when he gave her the $15,000 apartment may have been annoying and worth an HR complaint but do not think that means the threshold of sexual harassment. Claire was not on this movie and it sounds like there was a professional disagreement and no harassment.

Jenny Slate not wanting the zoom meeting recorded is in no way sexual harassment. And even many of the allegations Blake has been made have been discounted. The dance video showed that she took some things out of context like him saying that she smelled so good when he did not say that and her saying, he said that after he kissed her neck when that did not happen. she said there was no intimacy coordinator when we now know there was one and she did not meet with the intimacy coordinator, forcing Justin to relay notes.

The fat shaming was also taken way out of context. I’m not discounting that Blake believed that these things happened, but they have to meet a reasonable standard and it doesn’t seem like that has been met at this time.

Having a few women come forward with minor complaints does not a harassment pattern make. And Blake‘s problem is that she has been caught in some lies so if other things did happen, it makes it hard to know what she has blown up in her mind and what is reality. Thats why we need evidence. But the more that comes out the more the public seems to be favoring Justin Baldoni, even despite legacy media clearly being on Blake side.

If you don’t believe me, go to Just Jared or people magazine, or Us. The headlines favor Blake but read the comments. They are brutal and overwhelmingly in Justin’s favor. [/quote]

That is your view because you don't believe any of the women. So to you, everything that made them uncomfortable was their inability to understand the context and their own experience. [/quote]

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