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[quote=Anonymous][quote]But increasingly I think they are just $hitty men who used feminist branding to make money while treating women pretty badly at work. I know the Baldoni defenders on here will freak out about that, but it's just hard for me to square some of these behaviors. I'm really bothered to hear about Justin screaming at a female producer and then telling her, in his apology, that he'd been struggling with behavior specifically towards women, for example.[/quote]

I don't like Baldoni and am appalled at some of his fangirls. There are points in reading his depositions where I do feel sorry for him. I feel like he and Heath do try to answer honestly, in contrast to the cagier answers from Nathan or Wallace. Baldoni gets pretty emotional at time when he's confronted with some of his worse messages and explains that he was spiraling and in a very bad place mentally, and I believe him there (I also believe that this bad place led him to doing the smear campaign is accused of). If I had to psychoanalyze him, he does have issues with women, to his credit he acknowledges it and does try to work on it, but he's very sensitive to being perceived as someone who has issues with women, and that unfortunately leads to more issues. I'm sure his therapist makes a lot out of it. Like he was an ass and yelled at Saks, but I give him some credit that he actually reflected on it and apologized (I think it was genuine), because there's a million directors who would be even worse and would never apologize and create that record. Maybe that's what also leads him to put his foot in his mouth and make dumb comments like "I missed the sexual harassment training" and "it's ok, my wife is here" because he actually is hyper aware that he shouldn't be saying these things, which actually does make him more of a feminist than some men, ironically. There was one discussion in there that his greatest fear was getting cancelled for having issues with women.

I definitely don't think it was the worst sexual harassment that has ever happened and maybe not sexual harassment at all. But we do have Slate, Saks, Lively, and Ayoub each getting to this conclusion independently, if not for inappropriate comments then for anger issues. They end up asking for him to be banned from the set or not wanting to be doing promo with him. I'm not going to put that all on Lively. I was surprised that Saks said Slate told her she could do with never seeing Heath again because Heath's comment about honoring mothers or whatever doesn't even seem that bad. I get she is probably a liberal feminist and it bothered her because it was gendered, but am surprised it was that visceral that she'd never want to see him again. Heath and Baldoni must give off a terrible vibe IRL that will probably make them bad witnesses.

What is clear to me though is this isn't some scheme Lively cooked up to "steal a movie" which I always thought was stupid. While it does seem like some of these instances are not that big of a deal, it seems that she was honestly and legitimately upset by them and not making them up. I say that because other women got just as upset about their own issues and didn't want to work with Baldoni and Heath anymore.[/quote]

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