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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Explain to me what money Dorland will achieve in the lawsuit (as opposed to "in the court of public opinion") from a failed defamation claim by Sonya Larson.  (Hint:  zero dollars.)[/quote]

Why do you think this is about money?  Larson filed suit against Dorland, and Dorland filed counterclaims.  She's the [u]defendant[/u].  The case is not some big money grab on DD's part.

I feel like the initial misinformation about this whole story pops up, zombified, every 10 pages on this thread.[/quote]

This is not about money. Now, Dorland doesn't have endless money, but I think she is probably just wanting to clear her name. She doesn't want cash. She wants her reputation back. [/quote]

Dorland said in the story I think (or somewhere) that they spent their last $2500 to retain a lawyer to protect her letter, and would not settle the case for less than her attorneys fees, so I am pretty sure that she would at least like to recover the amount of money that she has spent on the case in attorneys so far, which is in the thousands and probably in the tens of thousands of dollars by now.  I too want her to win the infringement claim because of what is "right" in this case and it's nice to think of that happening.  Note, though, that the first party to talk about suing for tens of thousands of dollars in this case was Dorland's attorney threatening to sue -- I think? -- 1C1S for [b]$150,000[/b] or more if they published the story (which is a very high price tag, I hope you agree), so I'm not sure if you're strictly correct that Dorland was the first to make this about money.  Larson's attorney sued first, but Dorland's attorney [i]threatened to sue[/i] -- and with a very high price tag on it -- well before Larson actually did.

I am on Dorland's side!  [B]But I think some folks have drank so much Kool Aid at this point that they cannot see the other side, which is exactly how Dorland got ostracized from the Chunky Monkeys to begin with. [/B] While I certainly don't like or sympathize with Ng and will certainly never buy one of her books, I am uncomfortable with some of the comments being made about her in this thread.[/quote]

Disagreeing on a legal analysis of the case is not remotely similar to what the CMs did to Dorland. You are saying here that if someone doesn't agree on your legal take, they are "drinking Kool Aid" and "cannot see the other side" and engaging in ostracization similar to what the CMs did. That is a flatly absurd statement, so much so that it makes me seriously question the logic behind your legal analysis.

People can rationally disagree on the merits of the case. If you look around, you'll see different takes. My take is that Larson doesn't appear to have very good counsel. Furthermore, I think the legal posture of the case has changed significantly based on the events of the past two weeks, so any analysis predicated on prior filings is likely to be off base.

It is irrational to assume that someone who doesn't agree with your specific legal analysis is simply too biased to understand the truth. It is entirely possible for somebody to just think you are wrong.[/quote]

Here are some of the strongly worded opinions that people have written about other living people just in the last four pages:

[quote]"You start seeing this almost like a vampire story, don't you? These regular people letting Ng drink their blood for the hope of eternal life/a nice advance."

"Celeste is literally delusional."

Claiming that Larson's lawsuit is "harassment" of Dorland.

Saying that Larson's keeping the letter in the story "indicates a kind of crazy obsession and desperation."[/quote]

I'm sure if I went back further I could find more and probably worse.  Isn't some of this is the beginnings of a similar -- or at least adjacent -- sort of dehumanization that the Chunky Monkey people did to Dorland?  When you are on one side and your enemy is on the other, it's not that hard to start calling them crazy obsessed vampires.  I think that people who are starting to see Larson and Ng in this way instead of as very fallible human beings may not really be grasping the actual legal issues in the lawsuit connected to copyright and tortious interference.  The heart wants what it wants, but the law doesn't care about real justice.

Nobody seems to have read or cared enough to comment about the legal discussions of the merits of Lawson's copyright claim that I linked earlier, which is what Dorland's whole recovery here is predicated on, so that says something to me also.

I understand that this case is not just about money, but if Dorland gets out of this lawsuit with nothing to show for it but thousands of dollars in legal bills, I don't think the court of public opinion will have done her any real favors.

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