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Abortion is an act of violence.
Why perpetrate violence on women?
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Even more violent is pushing a full term child out of your vagina. Have you ever done it?[/quote]
My child’s birth actually wasn’t violent. She literally came out smiling, according to our midwife. :)[/quote]

My friend died giving birth, at age 28.

My pelvis cracked giving birth and I’m still feeling the effects of it 10 year later.

Another friend almost bled to death.

You're awfully smug aren’t you.
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DP.  For heaven's sake, I'm sorry those things happened to you and your friends, but the PP wasn't smug. People like you and other people talking about birth always being violent are just as wrong as anyone who says it is always no big deal.  There is a full range of experience.  Her experience doesn't negate yours and yours doesn't negate hers.

Again, sorry you had such a hard time, but seek therapy instead of venting your bile on anonymous posters who just share their experiences.   :roll:

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PP was dismissing the notion that childbirth had consequences for women's bodies with her comment. Pregnancy and childbirth used to be the #1 cause of death in women. Any woman who decides to go through pregnancy is still taking a chance, even if it's a small one, of bodily harm to herself. And even if it doesn't kill most women pregnancy is hard on their bodies. The government does not have the right to force a woman to go through a potentially hazardous situation against her will.

https://slate.com/technology/2013/09/death-in-childbirth-doctors-increased-maternal-mortality-in-the-20th-century-are-midwives-better.html
[quote] The real reason women give birth when they do, Dunsworth says, is that it would take too much energy to feed a fetus for any longer. This is the “metabolic hypothesis” and it’s based on the finding that the maximum metabolic rate people can sustain is about 2 or 2.5 times their standard rate of using energy. During the third trimester, that’s exactly how much metabolic activity the pregnancy demands. Carrying a fetus for those final few months “is like being an incredibly good athlete,” Dunsworth says. No wonder it’s so exhausting.

By the late stages of pregnancy and during childbirth, almost anything can go wrong. Pregnant women are sapped of energy. They are susceptible to infectious disease. The baby’s head is enormous. Labor takes much longer in humans than in other primates; women often pushed for days. Historically, women died of puerperal fever (also called childbed fever, or postpartum sepsis, an infection usually contracted during childbirth), hemorrhage, eclampsia 
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