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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Liman is going to side with Lively because he gives her everything she wants, so don't be surprised. [/quote]

This is a bad read of what's been going on in this case, and Baldoni supporters should continue to believe it at their peril.  Baldoni's supporters are committing countless unforced errors and you guys continue to lap it up and fail to call them on it because you're trapped in an echo chamber.

A female plaintiff claiming sexual harassment and retaliation asks for a dep to be held at her counsel's firm because she can't get a straight answer from opposing counsel for four days re who will be attending and that it won't be mayhem, and opposing counsel's response is to mock her concerns and say they will just allow her security just to walk her into the building?

Shuster probably could have avoided this result had they filed a letter that said some of what they said here, but just phrased it in a way that showed they were serious.  "We take Ms. Lively's concerns seriously and can have additional security available to walk her in and out.  None of the attendees will be members of the press.  We are not looking for a media circus."  etc.  Instead he mocked and grandstanded, and now they aren't hosting anymore.  Absolutely unforced error.  [/quote]

I agree with you that Liman isn’t corrupt and they he did the right thing here. But I don’t think you’re seeing the bigger picture. The location doesn’t matter either way, and Baldonis side knows that. Freedman is just trolling Blake, pointing out she’s a Prima Donna and expects special treatment whenever she goes. He made his point. The issue isn’t a big deal. [/quote]

Hoo boy do I disagree with you on this one.  You're talking about the bigger picture like it's purely on the PR side -- does Lively look like a diva to Baldoni fans and will that continue to incite their rabid reactions in this case?

Whereas to me the [i][b]real[/b][/i] bigger picture is that [u]Liman will be deciding very soon whether or not to grant discovery against the Liman Freedman firm itself, for participating in the smears[/u], and this entire briefing just reinforced Gottlieb's themes that Freedman is a bizarro wildcard who does not follow normal rules of professional conduct for lawyers -- which reinforces the fact that as Gottlieb is arguing, Freedman himself may very well be involved in the smear.  I bet that decision is coming early this week.  You think it was good for Liman to be reading that Vin Diesel pleading while he's deciding that issue?  I do not.

In fact, I think having that Vin Diesel pleading in his back pocket is exactly why Gottlieb had his people send the email insisting the dep would occur at Lively's law firm in the first place.  It was a bit of a threat -- give in to us on the location and the attendees or we will send your crazy behavior as described in this pleading to Judge Liman.  And Garofalo scoffed and provided zero reassurances, so Gottlieb filed the motion.[/quote]

Responding to self to note that NAG has weighed in on this and thinks Gottlieb filed this PO as a PR strategy to protect Lively from leaks when they come out of the deposition:  https://www.tiktok.com/@notactuallygolden/video/7526991946775088439

Just as a reminder, NAG thought the PO would certainly be denied; she seemed pretty certain about it; she enjoyed Shuster's tone and arguments and scoffed at Lively's security and privacy arguments.

Imo NAG is wrong about this, also.  Gottlieb didn't file this for PR.  Like I say above, Gottlieb is pounding his themes for Judge Liman.  The decision on discovery on the smear at the Liner Freedman firm is coming up fast and this was a great time to get more evidence re what a whackadoodle Freedman is before the judge.

Roughly ~800 pages ago in this thread, I made an argument that good attorneys will often make discovery motions etc. that they know may not necessarily win, but that they make anyway because they are educating the judge about a major theme in their overarching case and they are trying to put as much information explaining why they are right about that theme in front of the judge so as to get them on their side wrt that theme.  Gottlieb wound up winning this dep argument, but even if he had not, it would have been totally worth it to get those Vin Diesel papers and refresh those MSG statements in front of this judge before he decides the Liner Freedman firm subpoena issue.  That's a tough issue, getting discovery out of a law firm, and I don't know whether Gottlieb will win it, but do I think his chances are better now?  Definitely yes.  Imho Gottlieb has been really, really smart here in how he has handled everything about this.

It was admittedly pushy of him to demand the dep should occur at his office a week ago and to require names.  But I think he did that because he had the Vin Diesel sworn declaration and was wondering how to either use it to his advantage or get it in front of the judge before the law firm subpoena decision. Either he'd get to move the dep, or he'd get to file that pleading with the judge and tee up more Freedman wrongdoing in time for the subpoena decision.  I just think that was very smart.  While meanwhile, Shuster seems to be directing his best arguments at the reddit fanatics.  That is not how you convince a judge.[/quote]

Oh please, Liman is hack that you will twist in circles to defend because you support Blake.  One would think he would have learned a lesson when he was reversed for granting a motion to dismiss for Bank of America when his wife owned stock.  He is barely coherent when he speaks from the bench, just a nepo baby who has lived off his daddy’s reputation.  At least his brother made his own way.[/quote]

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