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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the federal government should have different tiers of GS employees: (1) those who want remote work and are happy doing worker-bee jobs that don’t require building relationships with leadership or taking on meaningful management responsibilities, and which have limited promotion potential; and (2) people who are serious about moving up in the agency and who take on leadership-track positions that require in-person work.

The fact is that relationships matter, and you can’t build them the same way over Teams or through virtual happy hours. If I’m looking to promote someone to handle serious matters that involve conversations with political leadership, sensitive topics, etc., I’m not going to entrust that to someone who refuses to get out of their jammies.[/quote]

Boomers haven't figured out zoom so they need to be in person to build rapore sad[/quote]

Are millennials building rapport on zoom? Or do they just not care because they are busy with other things? Because Gen Z wants to be in the office and they are more tech savvy than millennials.

Agree with PP about the remote/in-person dichotomy. I feel like women have been making this trade off of decades. If they have kids, they often mommy track in one way or another, whether it is continuing in paid employment but adjusting their schedule/career-path or whether they take time off to SAH.

So why not let workers have the ability to choose? It is not forever - those who prefer remote can always come back later and vice versa.

Someone else mentioned butt-kissing and not all people who want to be in the office are suck-ups, some just want to have relationships and in-person interactions. If you don’t, fine, but there is nothing wrong (or bad or suck-uppy) about those who do.

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It must vary. The gen z staff in my office all moved to other cities and don't plan to move back. They'd quit before RTO.[/quote]

When the budget cuts hit with the next deal this will be a great cost saving measure, tell everyone to RTO and hope for enough quitting to make your budget work.[/quote]

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