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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are some truly dense people on DCUM who keep saying URMs are unqualified based test scores.  This isn't China!  If you want a system based entirely on test scores, you are in the wrong country. [/quote]

+1000

Anyone who's enlightened about the history of the United States and its implementation of standardized testing, and the racist objective should know this.

The SAT / ACT is fake " merit"

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But SAT + GPA + Activities + Leadership + Intereview is most likely not  :wink: [/quote]

GPA and rigor is the primary basis for academic merit. Period.

The rest like ECs, leadership, interviews is to help elite colleges shape a class.[/quote]

I agree with MIT and think Test + GPA and rigor combination is the primary basis for acedemic merit.  
Schools want to throw in the other factors, so let it be.

What I don't agree is throwing in race.[/quote]

Good for you and MIT.

1800 other schools - including all of the Ivies - have a different opinion.[/quote]

Yes.

Like CalTech (#9 in USNWR), a peer of MIT:

"CalTech said an internal study revealed standardized test scores “have little to no power” predicting academic performance in required mathematics and physics courses for first-year students in the institute’s core curriculum."

Funny. Since MIT made its decision to reinstate standardized testing, how many elite schools followed them?

Crickets.[/quote]

Also CalTech, Fall Enrollment 2022-23
https://www.registrar.caltech.edu/records/enrollment-statistics

CalTech is actually one school doing it fairly right without test scores and it can do that because it has extremely small number of elite groups of students.  
Students have national level and international level awards and nobody would question their qualifications in general.

--- American Indian or Alaska Native 2%
--- Asian American 44%
--- Black or African American 7%
--- Hispanic/Latinx 22%
--- Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander 2%
--- White 45%
--- International 9%
--- Race/ethnicity unknown 1%

If done relatively right, it would at least look like this I guess if you agree with CalTech way.[/quote]

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