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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Crime will increase as unwanted children are born, according to the Freakonomics guys. There are many more societal ills than benefits when you force women to have a baby. [/quote] Then why not kill all the unwanted kids too? Heck, let’s include the useless adults too. I mean as long as it’s their mom deciding, it’d be ok, right? Round ‘em up and crush their heads and throw ‘me in the bio-disposal can. It’d all be very convenient for the rest of us now wouldn’t it, unless of course you were one of the useless ones ... Anyhow, to me it is not a matter of choice. It is a matter of when (scientifically) a human life begins. Before then, destroy the zygote or fetus or whatever it is at your convenience, but after that point, whether the child is still in the womb or not, it is murder. Period. Take the religious, emotional and “woman” rights arguments away and base the law upon science. [/quote] You can actually physically separate a child from its mother; you cannot physically separate a fetus from the mother. If a mother does not want a child she can hand him over to authorities. If she does not want a fetus in her body and it is not viable; [b]that life is dependent on her[/b] and is inside her body and it is her right to decide whether she wants that. Pregnancy is still dangerous. Many women still die giving birth. If a woman does not want to carry a baby; that’s where the line is regarding whose rights matter more. Mind you fetuses are becoming viable earlier and earlier due to technology. It’s not that complicated of a concept.[/quote] The life is still dependent upon the parents, even after it is born. It can't give itself nutrition after it is born. [/quote] A baby who has been born does not need either of its biological parents to be the ones giving it nutrition. You’d think the people who are always beating the drum that adoption is the solution to unplanned pregnancy wouldn’t need that explained to them.[/quote] Then don't use "the baby is dependent upon her" as a justification for the right to end it's life.[/quote] THE FETUS IS DEPENDENT ON HER. Are you daft?[/quote] NO. I am not daft. My point is that the fetus is also dependent on her AFTER it is born. ALSO.[/quote] The is fetus is dependent on the particular woman in whose uterus it resides. A baby is dependent on any adult that takes care of it. If and when a fetal transplant is possible I would expect you to be the first to sign up to receive one.[/quote] I'd rather do that, than end it's life.[/quote] Really? How many children have you adopted?[/quote] One. Any other questions?[/quote] And did you adopt that child because it was unwanted or because YOU wanted it?[/quote] Obviously, both.[/quote] Why not adopt more than 1? Why not adopt a set of siblings? Or 5, or 6, or 7 children?[/quote] NP. Really? The only way you can defend abortion is to demand that people who believe it is killing a baby adopt 5 or more children? Get a grip.[/quote]
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