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[quote=Anonymous][quote]CC worshippers? Who is worshipping the Common Core standards?

In any case, if you assert that the standards are developmentally inappropriate, then it's up to you to provide evidence to support that assertion.[/quote]

People have already talked about various standards on other threads (in detail).  If kids fail at the standards I'm sure you won't find that as enough evidence.  You will say that the kids were not taught correctly even though you cannot make that conclusion solely based on data.  At some point you have to talk to teachers!  The data cannot tell you everything because the tests cannot test for developmental appropriateness.  It is only something that can be known through observation and understanding of human development (and getting to know each child).  It burns me so much that people put so little importance on what the teachers are seeing.  Why, why, why do you not believe the teachers?  Nobody will want to be in a "profession" where they are treated like idiots.  This is how we are viewed by people like YOU.  This is why the teacher quit her job.  Look for the best to leave first.  It is not longer a "profession" when you treat people as robots who must perform based on their programming agents.

The only thing that you keep saying is that the standards are meant to compare states to each other.  That is their big value.  That is all you can say that they do.  Other people (teachers) are trying to put more meaning into the standards and every time they say something your response is "Oh, the standards were never meant to do that" or "Nobody said that could happen".  Well, the thing is that people would like SOMETHING TO HAPPEN as the result of money being spent on education.  Something that helps students maybe? So the teachers, parents, etc. are trying hard to find the usefulness of these standards and they just can't come up with anything.  You keep saying, "Oh, you can't expect these to really change anything and if things go wrong, it's really your fault, etc." NOT HELPFUL.  We just aren't seeing the value and you keep telling us we aren't looking at it right.  We should see how important it is to compare states to each other (and spend hours upon hours doing that).  This is an epic fail.

We are supposed to accept these standards and all the testing because, why?  Because we don't have data that they are not good?  So therefore they must be good?  The FDA let thalidomide be sold with the same argument.  They waited until the damage was done to ban it.  We have canaries in the coal mines and people want to wait for them to start dying (and they are--- as evidenced by teachers quitting).  What kind of "evidence" would convince you?  Do you believe that teachers are lying about all of this?

Meanwhile, you are going to have people sabotaging---as you can already see by all of the "opt out".  Even your comparison argument will fall apart.  Money is being flushed down the toilet.   [/quote]

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