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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Common core math standards in K and first grade are not the best.  [b]The basics need to come first[/b].  Would you try to read a Russian language newspaper without first knowing the Russian alphabet?[/quote]

The Common Core basic standards for end of year of Kindergarten include:

- count to 100
- write numerals to 10
- draw pictures or use objects to show addition and subtraction (i.e. if told 2+3 child can draw 2 cats plus 3 cats, and then count to get 5 cats.)
- do the above for numbers that add up to 10
- break numbers up to 10 into two groups.   For example, if given 6 buttons, be able to break them into 4+2, or 3+ 3, etc.   And then beable to WRITE 4 under the group that has 4, and 2 under the group that has 2.  
- know what two numbers add up to 10.  (1 and 9, 2 and 8, 3 and 7, 4 and 6 , 5 and 5)
- know math addition and subtraction facts to 5 fluently (from memory, not needing to count on your fingers)

These standards ARE the basics.[/quote]

I have not read the entire thread.  I stopped here.

I have one DC #2 in K, the other in 3rd.  We came from a different state that did not use CC when DC1 was in K.

The PP about the standards for math in K are exactly what my K in 2.0 and my 3rd grader from pre-CC in a different state have learned.  Yes, they have learned things differently, but differently is not the same as one is better than the other.  As long as both kids reach a high level math by the time they graduate HS with deep understanding of the high level math, that is all that matters.

It seems to me many people here oppose 2.0 because they feel it also dumbs down the curriculum.  I don't think that is true given that the curriculum states, by X grade, they will have to be able to do Y, and the X and Y are somewhat on par with pre CC.  My 3rd grader has done rote memory learning of times and division tables at school, in addition to learning it by 2.0 style.

I don't think it's the curriculum that is dumbing down the child but the way some schools have approached 2.0.  I've read on some of these posts that some schools in MCPS do not offer compacted or accelerated math to 4th/5th graders; but some do.  Again, it is how some schools are approaching 2.0.

It seems to me again that some people think their kids are so advanced that the kid shouldn't have to sit in class with other kids that aren't as bright.  But this is public ed, folks.  If you want that 1:1 with a teacher you will have to send them to private.

My 3rd grader is going to HGC next year, so I know DC is bright (always knew this).  In DCs class, during math, DC is often grouped with a child who is not good in math.  DC tells me that DC has to explain a lot to this other child.  To me, it doesn't bother me that much that DC is not getting more "acceleration" and is rather helping the other child because I think trying to explain something to someone else helps DC get a deeper level of understanding and forces DC to be more articulate - both of which are very important.  At this age, it doesn't bother me that DC is not being pushed to accelerate. That will probably come later.

Since I haven't read all the posts or read up on all the CC articles, maybe I am missing something, but from what I have seen so far, it hasn't been that bad.  But then again, I am one of those parents that don't have tutors for my kids, so that probably, I'm sure, explains much about my post to some people's way of thinking.  But you would be wrong to assume that I don't care that much about my kids' education.  I quit my job at a really great company that everyone has heard of and moved states for the benefit of my kids' education; I am damn well committed.

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