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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BVffPix3bXA/UFfjy8BQPrI/AAAAAAAABjg/GyfTL3zVjWg/s1600/Please-climb-that-tree1.png[/img][/quote] If this is waht some people look at Math and English, we got a problem. [/quote] You have not spent enough time on dcum. Read some of the private school threads about how much better, stronger, more rigorous, more advantageous, is the education available to private school kids. The entire argument is that kids should go because they will be by far best prepared to " climb the tree". [/quote] My Asian kids went to overcrowded public schools of course because I don't have money to send them to private schools. I believe tests are still the most objective and fair measure. The world is never going to be perfectly fair and leveled. Welcome to the real world. [/quote] Of course not. But if the fish makes it to the first branch, that is as or more impressive than the monkey getting all the way to the top [/quote] Impressive doesn't mean qualified. Help the fish equiped to compete is the solution. [/quote] Going to an excellent college is helping the fish to compete.[/quote] shoving in underqualifed fish on top of the tree is not the solution. [/quote] That’s the fallacy. This fish is plenty qualified. Nobody is choosing anyone unqualified.[/quote] Sorry monkey is more qualified. Fish is still less qualified although looking impressive. Let's help fish! [/quote] Everyone meets a benchmark if qualification and has the capability to succeed the difference between a 1450 and a 1600 is not significant for educational achievement and there are other factors. No one is getting in sub 1000 or anything like that. The kids are all qualified.[/quote] 1. The 1600 kid is also good if not better in other factors. 2. Other factor must not be race and racial discrimination. [/quote] I get your point. I’m just pointing out that these are not “free seats” and the kids that get in are qualified and a hundred or so points on the SAT does not make someone more qualified or entitled than someone else. I think if it can be established that it was on race in a way that is not permissible under law, then the lawsuit makes sense. We all know what SCOTUS is going to do. It doesn’t mean Harvard was wrong. SCOTUS will overturn precedent like they did in Roe.[/quote] +1 Your points make too much sense to engage with the troll talking about monkeys and fish.[/quote]
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