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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Rhianna married washed up loser ASAP
Mariah Carey married loser Nick Cannon
Whitney Houston with losers Ray J and Bobby Brown
Britney married loser K-Fed
Taylor marrying this ugly doofus

This was Travis over the weekend. He is an unreformable idiot.

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It is crazy how EVERY aging pop super star marries a loser[/quote]

He’s a future hall of fame NFL tight end! Top of his profession.  Jealous haters on this thread.[/quote]
Yea but that doesn’t make him appealing to most women. That’s what you don’t seem to get. [b]Joe Alwyn or Harry Styles are infinitely more appealing [/b]than Travis and the fact that he’s good at a sport that many women don’t regularly watch doesn’t matter. He’s just so cringe. That said, maybe he’s really great to her behind the scenes. [/quote]

You have got to be kidding me. Those two are so cringe. Despite people like you, the sporty alpha male is still an attraction to many women. I would contend more women are attracted to a sports star that a scrawny music guy who dresses up in lace and pearls. [/quote]

NP. I would never get together with a guy who gets paid to get concussions and so many of his cohorts are bad with money so they have to get training on how NOT to go bankrupt despite earning millions. Or a guy who looks like Paul Bunyan.[/quote]

Nobody cares who you would or wouldn’t get together with.[/quote]

Taylor swift does though because she needs her fans to want to be like her so they can buy into the idea that she is just like them but with magical song writing powers.

For me, I like a brawny burly man, but not one who buys into the machismo idea that crushing beers and trash talking about women’s back fat is okay.  A brawny man who makes furniture and is respectful of women (meaning doesn’t put them down for physical appearance or make jokes about women as a group) sounds perfect.[/quote]
Let me guess, you've never made jokes about men's physical appearances? Or is that different?
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DP but I can honestly say I've never made jokes about anyone's appearance as an adult. I especially would never make fun of someone for their weight. Both of my parents are very overweight and I know how harmful comments like that are.[/quote]

There have been a lot of negative comments about Travis' body in the past few pages. I don't think people even realize that they are massive hypocrites.[/quote]

Well I've never said anything negative about his body but it does bother me that he talked about a woman that way. [/quote]

Tell that to the people hating on his body here. He can't help the body he was born into.[/quote]

Sure thing.  Don’t make fun of people’s bodies.  It is rude and not okay.  OTOH, if you want to make fun of Travis because he seems overly interested in beer and looking “cool”/ not caring about being thoughtful to other, but only into his own status, you are right on track. [/quote]

Yes, making "fun" of people is so mature and such a good look. This is how kids talk so it must be disappointed tweens in here.[/quote]

I guess I I should have used the “grown up” term “hating” instead of “making fun of” ANd yes, sometimes when someone is “hating on” an entire group of people like cheerleaders or women with back fat, they should be shamed into changing their behavior. Not lauded as being hot because it makes you feel better than the other girls if he likes you.  [/quote]

DP.  You seriously need to grow up and move on.  I doubt you're this outraged by all the women making nasty comments about men's bodies.  [/quote]

You mean about Travis?  No, I always think people commenting and “hating” or making fun of other people’s bodies is not okay. It is especially not okay online where things live forever.  Why do you think that is fine?  Why do you think a public figure should send out tweets about women’s bodies?  Why are you okay with that and think that being adult means making mean comments or just accepting that rude comments are okay?[/quote]

Didn’t this happen when he was 20? Hardly a public figure then and it was like 15 years ago. Move on.[/quote]

So that makes it okay in your mind. It doesn’t to me. A quick little apology about it “being in the past” and you believe this beer slamming guy who more recently yelled at his coach did the hard work addressing aggressive manner and doesn’t have those same thoughts now. All of that behavior is about gaining power by putting others down. There is a pattern.  [/quote]

Beer slamming guy? Are you the tween poster? You still sound 12.[/quote]

Travis and Justice Kavanaugh have a lot in common:  “Have you boofed yet?  “Yes, we drank beer. My friends and I. Boys and girls. Yes, we drank beer. I liked beer. Still like beer. We drank beer.”

And you are like, “OMG. He is SO cool! He even made fun of back fat!”

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So cool? Are you losing your mind? Who said that anywhere? Someday you will be old enough to drink a beer, baby girl.[/quote]Yea, the person you’re responding too has major anger issues where she gets this wound up and cares this much about who Taylor is dating. 
     Btw, has anyone on here ever played football? I have. Yelling at coaches and them yelling at us comes with playing football. [/quote]

Wrong again! I get wound up when I see people defending misogyny and people who gain power by brute force or putting people down in order to get power. I don’t care what Taylor does or who she is dating at all. I do care that she is a cultural icon for women during the rise of fascism. And that she and you as her defenders are contributing to the loss of women’s rights.  
Anyone on here who is defending the belief that guzzling beers makes a man strong/ gives him social power  is who I am addressing.  You all are so far gone down this path, you are defensively lashing out rather than thinking. [/quote]Are you off your meds? Nobody is saying that drinking a beer makes him a man.  Imagine being under the 24 hour scrutiny they are under all the time and they handle it well. 
    Who cares that she didn’t go to college. Lots of educated people didn’t go to college. [/quote]

You sort of know the trade off for celebrity is privacy when you sign up for the big bucks.  Sadly, though you are taking this very literally like I am saying drinking a beer will give him a d*** when really the comment is about the current culture war we as a nation are having about gender roles as a whole and masculinity in particular.

This board is fighting over Taylor’s type of man. Her exes represent a different type of man ([b]more liberal and open[/b] and artsy) than her fiancé who exhibits a [b]more conservative[/b] “maleness is aggressive power.”  What is really going on is Swifties are mirroring the larger debate over manhood and manliness that is raging right now.

So yes, the beer guzzling man culture that is upheld in the NFL is misogynistic and Taylor is Queen of the crew.  She has been asking to be picked out by a footballer for a long time and I think they are perfect for each other.[/quote]

I don't see any reason to assume he's politically conservative. They hated him for doing the Pfizer vax ads.

This narrow view how men should be is why Dems have lost most male voters in this country. [/quote]

If he is for broader women’s rights, he AND TAYLOR are keeping very quiet about it. [b]I’m not sure pics of Taylor making sourdough bread in the kitchen with an apron on speaks to women’s rights.  Contrast that to the beginning of her you need to calm down song where she is making fun of women in the kitchen.  [/b]
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DP.  Just in reference to the bolded, what on earth are you talking about?  How does a woman making bread with an apron on speak to... ANYTHING at all, much less "women's rights"?  Men AND women can both love cooking/baking.  How ridiculous.

And she has never made fun of women in the kitchen, in that song or any other.  Just very strange that this is what you've gotten from a song that is about defending gay people.   :roll: [/quote]

Look, if you want to travel around not knowing about Project 2025, or that the men who wrote it believe “women should belong in the kitchen” you seem to be able do that.  If you are unaware of the standard Stay at Home mom in the 1950s that cooked dinner every night for “family dinners” that Project 2025 and the right are trying to drag us back to, I guess my generation did its job well.  BUT, I think you are playing dumb to win internet points, so here is 10 points to you so you can feel like you are winning. The right is definitely attempting to take women backwards.

Meanwhile, there are serious attempts to strip women of rights (including the right to vote) that you should pay attention to.  Taylor is absolutely leaning into her wifey era with the sourdough bread and Toy Story song.  She is trying to translate her career into married woman role.  She isn’t doing it well as far as I’m concerned because she is relying far too much on stereotypes that women had to break out of and are still fighting.
And yes, she was trying to “break out of the kitchen 1950s in her pride song” she burned the kitchen down in the video.  She is your English teacher and that video had a ton of symbolism. [/quote]

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