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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Two college students suing some of those schools and the ringleader.  I was wondering when someone would sue those schools.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/two-stanford-students-file-first-133412573.html[/quote]

Well thousands and thousands of parents and students could sue for fraud. They should refund application fees for everyone that applied in the last 10 years and did not get in. All the real high scoring applicants that are told there are just not enough spots for all the smart kids- well that has taken on new meaning.[/quote]

Should we sue the College Board and ACT for abuse of the extended time accommodations? All tests should be untimed - enough of abuse by the wealthy. Level the playing field for EVERYONE- no more accommodations for extra time or calculators- [b]give EVERYONE unlimited time and calculators[/b].[/quote]
While we're at it, just give everyone THE ANSWERS, already!  :lol: [/quote]

See? Why is anyone resisting in giving every kid unlimited time? We will truly be testing knowledge of the materials. No more abuse.[/quote]

The SATs are a weird combo of testing for intelligence and testing for knowledge. Processing speed is one of the key components of intelligence. Math, grammar, and vocabulary are knowledge. The ability to retrieve memorized info quickly is considered another form of intelligence.  That said, kids who truly have processing speed or other issues should get extra time.

Can you imagine a world where all kids feel like they need to stay all day (until 5pm closing?) at the test center so they don’t do worse than the kids who ARE staying all day? The SATs effectively become a 9-hour test instead of a 3-hour test. Don’t think that fixes anything for either challenged or not-challenged kids. [/quote]

At least they have a choice - you finish early, hand in your exam and leave.  I don’t understand the resistance. You know there is abuse. You know poorer kids tend not to get diagnosis and accommodations especially inner city kids.  Even the current accommodations are unfair as it is not personalized - a kid w a certain disability may only need an extra 10 minutes while another may need 2 hours but both are given an extra hour. So just get rid of timed tests. These tests are meaningless now to test for processing speed when there are accommodations. Give everyone as much time as they need.[/quote]

That’s not how this would play out. ALL the kids gunning for Ivies will stay until closing. Maybe the kids aiming for Frostburg would go home early. So now there’s even more pressure on the Ivy gunners, and the kids who formerly benefited from deserved accommodations have lost any benefit because they’re now competing with the Ivy wannabes. [/quote]

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