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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele] Ellison has been co-chair of the Progressive Caucus. Apparently he has impressed those who have worked with him. You have to admit that Reid, Sanders, Schumer, and Warren cover a lot of ground. I think the main signal this is sending is that there is a desire to break with the Clinton wing of the party. The Clintons -- at least in their most recent incarnation -- represented the inside game. That was good for consultants, lobbyists, and the entire political professional class. Lot's of money to be made. But, those folks just lost the election. Apparently, a few of those in leadership positions want to try something different. [/quote] I have always thought Ellison is an interesting politician with some attractive ideas, but I don't know if the optics are great for this selection. I also think his more centrist stance toward Israel could be problematic. Right or wrong, AIPAC is a huge lobby that has traditionally supported Democrats. IMHO, one of the more important things Congressional Democrats need to do is try to salvage the Iran Deal. They need AIPAC to at least not try to derail these efforts. And there's no getting around the fact that Ellison is controversial, even just cuz of his religion. It's not right, but it's reality. I've posted before, a lot of the criticism of Clinton was not right or fair, but the bad optics her (and the party) in the end.[/quote] I don't think it is fair, or even wise, to compare an individual's religion to another's person's private email server, family foundation that takes millions in foreign donations, or highly-paid private speeches to the finance industry. Clinton's bad optics generally were a result of her own bad decisions. In the case of Ellison, the factors you site are ones that Democrats should uphold rather than consider "bad". [/quote] Not the poster you are referring to, but I have seen criticism only of Ellison's own speeches and writings, not his religion. [/quote] Same here. Plus, his former Farrakhan association is still concerning.[/quote] Ellison's religion is fine. His race is fine. His past association with a bigoted advocate of racial separatism is not fine. And Ellison's refusal to unequivocally condemn Farakhan's bigoted teachings is completely unacceptable.[/quote] Yep. Liberals were jumping all over Steve Bannon but can't be bothered to condemn Keith Ellison. Yet again: hypocrites of the highest order.[/quote] you think anyone is fooled by your crap? bannon is actively creating a platform for the racists as we speak. [/quote]
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