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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So much ignorance.

1. Undocumented immigrants do not have access to welfare and food stamps.  Never have, never will.

2. Legal immigrants have to be here for 5 years to qualify.

3. Undocumented immigrants almost all pay payroll taxes.  Thus they pay to fund benefits for US citizens.

4.  Almost every economist who has looked at this has concluded that immigrants are a net plus to the US economy and the treasury.

5.  Since 2009, the number of undocumented immigrants from Mexico has decreased.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/[/quote]

- works in immigration

I'll also add a side note that even in liberal proposals 'amnesty' does not mean that everyone here illegally magically becomes a citizen. It means they get a path which would, at MINIMUM, be as long as the old path. It currently takes about 10 years start to finish to become a citizen. They would have to pay all the fees and go through all the rigamarole and likely pay a steep penalty. They will not bankrupt social security (and this scenario is incredibly unlikely to happen anyway in the political climate, no matter how much she might want to Hillary can't pass immigration reform through sheer force of will). [/quote]

So illegal immigrants do not have a baby within a few years that automatically becomes a us citizen and wont receive welfare for that baby? I read how an hondran mom who had zika had a baby here and came here just for that and will accrue 1 mil in welfare. Also maybe not mexican immigrants from mexico but def central amerivan immigrants from mexico because mexico does not want them and passes them over to the US[/quote]

If an undocumented immigrant had a baby the baby WOULD be a us citizen. And the baby would qualify for aid. However, in order to APPLY for that aid the parent would have to come out of the woodwork which they are very unlikely to do as that could very easily result in them being separated from their child. Undocumented immigrants spend their lives terrified of being caught, they are not going to go out of their way to create a paper trail towards themselves. [/quote]
Even calling them illegal immigrants is a compromise. They used to be called illegal aliens, but I suppose that was too negative. But there certainly are illegal immigrants - they immigrated here illegally. This "undocumented immigrant" is just to be extra respectful to people with no regard for our immigration laws.

Also, what you say about their being terrified of being caught won't apply if and when gives blanket amnesty. They they WILL come out of the woodwork, claiming benefits for the American-born babies. [/quote]

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