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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just want to point out that there is no test to be part of the American Jewish community.

Nobody is going to pull your son's pants down to determine if he is welcome to join a temple, or attend services, or go to Jewish day camp, join Hillel at his college, eat at Katz's, vote Democratic (ok, that was a joke), take the day off at work/school on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, stick up for/criticize Israel, or do any of the many, many things that define the community of "American Jews."

I can't speak to Israel, but i can tell you that in my almost 50 years as an American Jew, not once have I been asked about circumcision - at a Jewish event, or elsewhere for that matter.[/quote]

The only one who is going to pull his pants down is a future wife or girlfriend. If she is Jewish, it might become a point of conversation - though if he is of mixed parentage and raised in a non-observant household, she should not be surprised by what she finds. [/quote]

She won't be surprised because it sounds like OP's son will not identify as Jewish, and that is fine. He will know he has Jewish heritage but if they are not raising him Jewish -- which it sounds like they aren't because [b]DH doesn't care and OP has major issues with Jews or at least Israeli Jews[/b] -- he won't be Jewish. So if he marries a Jewish woman he's going to have to have that conversation anyway. Hopefully before she pulls down his pants.

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Nope, inaccurate.  Learn to read before you comment.  DH is a secular Israeli, if you know some you know what that means. They are against religious Judaism.  I do not "have major issues with Jews," I find that certain interpretations and applications of Jewish law are against my personal values.  Big difference.  As for Israel, this came into the discussion because many people were urging us to look into Reform/reconstructionist Judaism so I had to explain why this isn't relevant to our family.  I am guessing we would be more ideologically aligned with Reform, but it's not of interest to my husband.

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OP, I've read the whole thread. [b]You may not think you have issues with Jews but all your posts are complaining about how you feel excluded by the Jewish community and you don't like this or that aspect of Judaism and you think the practices are barbaric, etc. You are entitled to your opinion.[/b] I truly do not care. But it comes across clearly even if you are not aware of it.

Look -- you don't want to circumcise your son. So don't! Easy as that.[/quote]

Actually, I've expressed many opinions about certain interpretations of Jewish laws and practice which other Jews also express. So no, I don't "have issues with Jews." Unless other Jews have issues with Jews, just because they think the state of Israel shouldn't have discriminatory marriage laws, or because they think a lot of Orthodox interpretations are nonsense and don't have to do with Jewish religion.  I reject the idea that criticizing particular views and interpretations is a sign of having issues with Jews as such.  It's pretty intolerant of you to think that way.

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