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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If my religious tradition required inflicting pain on an infant for no medical benefit, I would rethink my religion.[/quote]

How does this occur to so few people?[/quote]

Because when you grow up within the religion it is normal. I attended my first bris (a cousin) when I was 8. Yet I already knew the tradition and thought nothing of it. Extended family and friends got together, cooed over the baby, kids under the age of 13 were sent outside to play during the actual ceremony, then we all trooped back in and had a big party with traditional spread, cake, wine. It was a joyous occasion. To reasonably religious or traditional Jews the bris is a celebration of a new baby boy -- for himself, for the family, for whomever he is named for, for the actual circumcision that formally marks him as Jewish. It's not this horrible thing non-Jews apparently perceive it to be. The pain is momentary and quickly goes away. It's like giving a shot or when you 2 year old falls down and skins his knees. Yes, it hurts. No, it does not scar them for life. They don't remember. [/quote]

They might remember it. There's evidence that suggests so. [/quote]

Well, maybe those kids are geniuses, but I assure you no Jewish boy or man I know -- and I know a lot -- remembers this. Yes, it comes up periodically. No, no one has ever said he remembers it or has a problem with it.[/quote]

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