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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I guess I will eat my words on the very small chance this turns out to be true, but you people are really deluding yourselves if you think there is this huge underground trump movement.  Lying to pollsters for fun or whatever you imagine is going on.

And I truly don't get how anyone is so insecure in their choice that they will go to such lengths to hide it.  If so, maybe it isn't the right choice?
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There are plenty, I'm sure.

But there's a difference between hiding your belief b/c you're embarrassed by it or hiding it out of fear.   Liberals can be very arrogant b/c most claim they're highly educated. Education and open-mindedness don't always go hand-in-hand.

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Fear of what?  Having to defend your opinion/decision?[/quote]
Not the PP, but I wouldn't call it "fear" exactly. It's more like not wanting to have to put up with being verbally attacked. And as far as defending my position, why should I have to? I know it's useless when I'm up against a rude, hostile Democrat, so I see no advantage in being sucked into a nasty argument. [/quote]

I agree with your take on this. 
I’ll use my sister as an example.  She is a liberal, I am not.  On the rare occasion that we discuss politics, she has no intention of hearing my views and positions.  She approaches our “conversations” as only an opportunity to convince me that she is right.  As a result, there really is no conversation.  She simply doesn’t listen to my views, but instead, attacks, changes the argument, and becomes quite incensed that I don’t agree with her.  It is just not worth having these confrontations.  We don’t agree on policy or methods to achieve a stated goal.
I love her, but I will not talk politics with her.  [/quote]

Same here. Every time I am trying to listen to liberals views about their politics, for some reason this phrase comes to my mind: do not throw your pearls to pigs. I just recently moved to the country and really ready to listen to both sides, but for some reason all liberals arguments are one-sided.[/quote]

I am fairly progressive. Mine is the opposite of your experience. I have a few republican relatives, neighbors and friends who simply won't listen to me at all. I am simply naive, stupid and unpatriotic because I don't support monitoring muslim citizens or don't worry about the browning of America. They can't believe that Muslim citizens are statistically much lower chance of comitting mass murders than a white man with a gun. Or that America has grown so much due to contributions from Asian Americans, hispanic, muslim, jewish, black Americans as much as white Americans. But they somehow feel whites are better. SMH.[/quote]
The Republicans I know do not support monitoring muslim citizens (how ridiculous!) nor do they worry about the browning of America. Not a one has intimated that "whites are better."  That's just such a stereotype that gives all Republicans a bad name.  Maybe some are like that, but the Republican voters among my family and friends are concerned with the weakening of our military (lowest since WWII), the poor response to the threat of increasing terrorism, the irresponsible spending that has driven the debt to nearly $20 trillion and expressed intent to continue that spending, the poor treatment of our veterans (particularly in connection with the VA), sanctuary cities that care more about protecting criminal illegal immigrants than American citizens, and such. Then they combine those concerns with the concerns they have over Hillary's corruption, shameless lying, willingness to risk national security to thwart FOIA requests, and they have decided they'll go with Trump. [/quote]

Oh there are quite a few of those voters. We all know MOST LIKELY only GOP has those kind of racist voters. Obviously any Obama voter can't be a white supremacist. Stereotypes will die if such racist republican voters die out. It doesn't help your cause when TRUMP tweets racist stuff and pretends not to know what alt-right is or takes days to run away from David Duke. It sure puts you in poor light when white supremacists are so happy for Trump and KKK endorses Trump as did the afore mentioned Duke. That is just common sense for anyone, not just politicians.

American military spending is combined spending of the next 10 militaries combined. So it is not weak. That is just NeoCon military-industry complex that Eisenhower warned about. More importantly military spending conflicts with your point about spending because Military is the highest after SS and medicare. No republican voter wants to cut the top three reason for huge budget spending which is almost 65% budget and Veteran affairs takes another 8%, approximately 75% is to be untouched, your fear of increased terrorism is just psychological, numbers doesn't bear that out. According to FBI stats white guy with a gun is still the top reason for mass murders. But Gun control, even taking away Assault rifle from those on terror watch list or no fly zone is a strict NO. How ridiculous is the feat of terrorism when your party doesn't want to remove guns from terrorist suspects?

What is most idiotic is Trump has no policy for any of the issues you raised. He afterall never made a thing in America or used American workers at his resorts preferring foreign workers. There is nothing that CAN BE done about il-legal immigrants already here. The smartest thing is to give them permanent residency and start taxing their income. Make E-verify mandatory and use drones to watch the border. That is smarter than a white elephant wall. Trump's budget cut for the wealthy will blow the deficit so much that it will need a 10% growth rate to balance, which is something US never achieved SINCE THE 1800s. So tell me what policy of Trump(he has nothing in his website) says he will fix all the American problems?

Budget pie:
http://www.cbpp.org/most-of-budget-goes-toward-defense-social-security-and-major-health-programs-0[/quote]

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