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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem is that the vast majority are single men, not families. I personally would not take that risk.[/quote]

So you take in a family with a father and son and expect them not to act like single men when they are coming from a patriarchal society hmm[/quote]

That's the point.  They I've w backward culture that isn't compatible with liberalized western values [/quote]

This is such BS and I am really tired of seeing it repeated ad nauseam. Are you suggesting that Khizr Khan has a backward culture that isn't compatible with liberalized western values? 
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Jeff, I generally agree with you on Middle Eastern issues, but comparing Khzir Khan's beliefs to that of a Syrian refugee is not ideal.  Khan and his wife -- like many Pakistanis and Indians of their generation --- made a decision to be educated in their countries so that would be more attractive as emigres to the US.  Khan is a lawyer and may hold some traditional Islamic values but he is very westernized.  I suspect the Khan's children are like the typical second generation Pakistanis and Indians who post on DCUM about the same first world concerns as Americans whose families have been here for a few  more generations. [/quote]

I believe what you are saying is that Khan does not fit the stereotype of a "culturally backwards" Muslim. If so, you are correct about that. However, it is similarly wrong to suggest that Syrian refugees fit that stereotype simply by virtue of being refugees. Educated and progressive people also become refugees. There are doctors and lawyers among the refugees. There are women who are university graduates. It is impossible to make blanket statements about the cultural values held by these individuals and certainly wrong to allege that none of them have values compatible with US society.
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No I am not saying that Mr. Khan fits the stereotype of a "culturally backwards" Muslim.  I don't stereotype people, partcularly Muslims, because I lived in Muslim countries and know the many variations of people who are followers of Islam.  My point is that the Khans made a decision to come to the States and understood they would likely adapt some aspects of western culture that the would not have followed had they remained in Pakistan.  The Syrian refugees are being forced from their country by a civil war and did not necessarily want to come to the west or adapt to our culture.   I understand the educational levels of the Syrians I knew in Damascus, so I do not think the refugees are backward or uneducated in western culture and values.  In fact, a large number of them had a least some of their education in the west.    However, not all of the Syrians are ready to adapt the culture being forced on them by their relocation to the west.[/quote]

Yes, I agree completely. That is more or less the same argument that I've been making but from another side. Some here seem to believe that none of the refugees are ready to adopt our culture. As you say, that is not true. But, I agree with you that it is similarly not true that all of them are. However, we don't plan to accept all of them and part of a successful relocation program would involve filtering out those who aren't and finding a more appropriate options for them.
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Where are we allowed to ask people to adopt our culture?  The only countries I have heard doing this are France (Burka / Burkini ban), some parts of Germany (education classes) and I think Sweden (video on nude sunbathing shown to immigrants). If we did any of these there would be a hue and outcry. A well known politician recently got slammed for suggesting folks who want sharia should not move here.  How, pray tell, do you propose this culture litmus test which I am totally fine with but does not sound anything like the identity politics America we now lie in where students in the UC system are allowed to advertise for only "POC' roomates. Doesn't seem anyone is interesting in adopting anyone's culture these days. It's a free for all and lots of people willing to defend people's individual 'rights' over the general welfare.[/quote]

Do they really show videos of nude sunbathers to Muslim immigrants in Sweden? That's hilarious. I would love to see a clip of that. [/quote]

Yes, they actually started it long ago with people who were properly immigrating from countries that took a far more traditional view on these things.  And sorry, it's Holland (see link below). Ironically, liberals in America would never allow our more liberal way of life to be promoted in such a way. They would call it "oppression".  I am not sure there is any plan or program for 'integrating' refugees much less immigrants to America. Do you know of any besides our fairly random citizenship test for those who don't simply stick with a green card?

Sadly, even with these efforts Scandinavia and Germany and France are just more reviled by some immigrants, have a massive rape/touching problem and of course the recent terroristic attacks. So much for asking people nicely to adopt or be open to your culture.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/14185/dutch-immigration-kit-offers-a-revealing-view[/quote]

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