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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Still waiting for someone who clings to the "if you have to spank more than once it means it's not effective" line to explain how timeouts only happen once, grounding only happens once, taking electronics only happens once. [/quote]

The issue is not effectiveness.  Maybe spanking is effective to stop the desired behavior.  But that's not the issue.  The issue is long-term impact on the child and the relationship.  Sure, if it "works" then you are good for the moment/week/month - but you and your child will pay a high price over the long haul in ways that you will not if you use other disciplinary (not punishment, disciplinary) methods.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2016/04/28/spanking-harms-kids-doesnt-work-and-leads-to-long-term-problems/#19d272645fa9

[i]There’s pretty much no benefit to spanking children to discipline them, and mountains of evidence show that spanking risks harming children, both short-term and long-term. Kids become more aggressive and anti-social, have more mental health problems from childhood into adulthood and misbehave more—and are more likely to end up abused. That’s the conclusion of the most recent meta-analysis on spanking, published in the Journal of Family Psychology and involving more than 160,000 children—though it’s unlikely to settle the debate that has continued for years over whether spanking is acceptable or whether it hurts children.[/i][/quote]

Another summary of the study:

http://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers

[quote]The more children are spanked, the more likely they are to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties, according to a new meta-analysis of 50 years of research on spanking by experts at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan.[/quote]

It could be the other way around, of course.  Children with anti-social behavior, aggression, and mental health problems and cognitive difficulties were spanked more as children.

Aside from that, they did not say how they explained studies which showed no harm from spanking.  Those studies exist, but this meta-study didn't seem to include them.  [/quote]

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