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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Still no answer on what's been "taken away?" So loud and vocal one minute, yet complete silence now...[/quote] Let’s see. Here are some things that I believe we are losing: 1. Tolerance on college campuses. In the name of “diversity,” colleges now have “safe spaces” for people to go to “relax” and “express their ideas.” But, of course, those spaces are only safe if you hold the same liberal views that colleges teach. Conservative speakers are rarely invited to college campuses. 2. Tolerance for people who hold different views. If one believes in traditional marriage or gender specific locker rooms, they are dismissed as homophobic or bigoted. 3. Religious tolerance. If a baker chooses not to make a cake or cupcakes for a gay wedding on religious grounds, that baker is sued and is in danger of losing his/her livelihood. 4. The concept that all people should be respected and not all points of view should be respected. Self-explanatory. 5. The concept that the best person for the job should be the one hired. Due to affirmative action, the strongest candidate for a job may very well NOT be the one that is hired. [/quote] This is way off topic now. We were talking about diversity/multiculturalism, NOT conservative talking points. Do not make every issue political. But since you started, let me try to answer it point by point. 1. Tolerance on college campuses. It is the prerogative of what the students and the college want. Majority rule is democracy. What the majority wants they get. You cant force your ideas on students or anybody else. Nobody is forcing the students to confirm. Its always been the way of life. Students are ideological and liberalism lends well to that idealism of equality, inequity, equal distribution etc. It isn't any different than the 50s or 60s or 70s. The younger generation drives the social change and that becomes the norm. 2. Tolerance for people who hold different views. If one believes in traditional marriage or gender specific locker rooms, they are dismissed as homophobic or bigoted. This applies the other way too. Why should ANY GROUP be discriminated based on any criteria. Dont cry reverse discrimination when pointed to discrimination. It doesn't work. 3. Religious tolerance. If a baker chooses not to make a cake or cupcakes for a gay wedding on religious grounds, that baker is sued and is in danger of losing his/her livelihood. Is the baker in business to make money or to ADJUDICATE on legal matters AFTER the supreme court has passed its judgment? Besides do not generalize and make it simplistic. It is not as simple as you say. Do you know what happened to cases when the baker was sued? PLEASE FOLLOWUP and then post if the baker shut down or if the court ruled against the bakers right to sell to whoever? DO NOT TRY TO HOODWINK , nobody is a fool. 4. The concept that all people should be respected and not all points of view should be respected. Self-explanatory. Exactly. So you show respect to what the majority people and what the highest court has adjudicated. 5. The concept that the best person for the job should be the one hired. Due to affirmative action, the strongest candidate for a job may very well NOT be the one that is hired. This is what happens in the private sector so much so there is hue and cry that asians take 40% of technical, professional and finance jobs even though they are only 5% of the population. You cant have the cake and eat it too. If it is purely merit based then the result may not be what you anticipate.[/quote]
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