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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]18.29 - but please explain to me (I'm asking nicely, no snark) why 1) the necessity of the body of Christ on the cross and on necklaces; 2) the statues that do indeed adorn Catholic churches- I do see these as graven images; 3) the Saints - no mention in the bible; 4) the adoration or worship or whatever you want to call it of Mary - also not in the ible so I just don't get it - people says she's "revered not worshipped" - I don't undersand the difference; 5) and how do the saints and Mary intercede?  That's not in the bible either.  I guess I don't buy Transsubstantiation either so I'm probably a hopeless protestant but am curious.

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Not sure what bible you've been reading but everything you say isn't in the bible absolutely is. [/quote]
Please provide citations then. I know the Bible very well. Catholic theology is filled with things that cannot be substantiated Biblically.[/quote]

There is an entire post about this a page back.[/quote]
Only one misused scriptural passage in that.[/quote]

How was it "misused?"  And you didn't respond to the post that reminded you that the church is the one that assembled the bible to begin with.[/quote]
No, I didn't. That would require a history lesson that I doubt anyone on here is willing to undertake. But much of Catholic doctrine that is taught today was formalized many centuries after the apostles spread the Gospel of Christ through the world. The early church knew nothing of, and wrote nothing of, transubstantiation, the veneration of "saints," the immaculate conception, papal infallibility and much else. In fact, the Catholic Bible in use today has about 12 books that are not in the Protestant Bible. If you read the Book of Acts, there is nothing at all recognizable as what the Roman Catholic church looks like today. The very idea of a canon of Scripture is so that you can recognize what is Biblical Christianity and what is not. If all you have to appeal to is church "tradition" and can't find it in Scripture, then I would ask why it wasn't written down in Scripture, to which Christians look as the authority on the life and teachings of Christ.[/quote]

I'm not sure what part of "Catholics don't really follow the Old Testament" you don't understand. Also I had to roll my eyes as I read your post. The "early church" was the Catholic church. Catholic monks wrote the bible. Please stop spouting lies as fact just to justify your dislike of Catholics.

You think Catholics are going to burn in hell for graven images. Several Catholics have told you these are symbols and not graven images. You can choose to ignore that and continue believing whatever you wish. [/quote]

I think PP believes that any beliefs or forms of worship not set down in the New Testament are non-Biblical and, by extension, non-Christian.  The Catholic Church and for that matter most of its offshoots believe the Church is its people and it evolves over time.  Thank God!

Slavery was taken as a fact of life in the New Testament; we now revile it.  The early church was small and like most small organizations very loosely managed.  But growth into a bigger organization requires different structures for success.  (How many tech companies run the same way they did when their headquarters was a garage?) The followers of the early Church found some members exceptional examples of Christian faith and so they especially respected them and remembered them after their death--these were the early saints, who could not have existed in the Bible because they died after the period it was written.

If you want a Church that looks like what people think it was like in the early days, you'd get people fighting over what really was the example we are to be following and inevitably you'd get extremist elements.  This is not always pretty as mainstream Muslims are finding with ISIS, which claims to be following the example of the earliest Islamic community.[/quote]

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