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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Man accidentally shoots himself in the ass while reaching for his wallet at Home Depot"

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/12/28/responsible-gun-owner-butt/

From my experience, this is the typical level of caution, training and responsibility (or more properly lack thereof) that the average gun owner has.[/quote]
No amount of caution, training, and responsibility will stop these types of stories.  They will certainly minimize them, but end them, nope.  Accidents happen, always do, always will.  It would be like saying your going to end auto accidents with better caution, training, and responsibility.  Not going to happen.  Best bet for reducing auto accidents is fully autonomous cars and banning personal driving.[/quote]

Um, NO.

Pretty far from "accidents happen" and "we can try to minimize them" based on my own experiences growing up around guns and having military training.

Loaded gun, one in the chamber, and safety off, tucked in your waistband.  Can't get much more stupid, uncautious, untrained and irresponsible than that.[/quote]
Oh I agree it's a stupid and irresponsible.  I'm just saying you cannot train away stupid and irresponsible.  Even in the military you have many service men injured and killed from accidents.  Sometimes more military men die from accidents in a year than from combat.[/quote]

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