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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I went to school in this district about two decades when it was still majority white. It has always been a very academic and well regarded district but was not crazy competitive as described in the article. My class mates included Ethan Hawke ( who spent his last two years of high school in private school), the director Bryan Singer, the screenwriter Chris McQuarrie, and Jim Murphy of LTD Soundsystem.  None needed the after school Kumon to be successful.  iMO the superintendent is on the right track in bringing the school system where it use to be.  For what it's worth, I went to a top 15 college and an Ivy League law school.  [/quote]

The school district maybe majority Asian at this point so maybe they should serve them instead of trying to *bring the school system where it use to be*[/quote]

Yes, let's just keep going on this train with kids writing  suicidal essays and creating art projects demonstrating unsustainable parental pressure so their parents can have bragging rights.  Sometimes the educators are right, this  school system has a track record for success for decades.  The reason many of these kids can't get into Harvard, Princeton, Yale despite top grades is a lack of passion and creativity in learning because it has been beaten out of them in favor of rote learning.[/quote]

Back to "rote learning". Again.  Keep telling yourself that.[/quote]

Did you even read the article? Clearly not.   My dh is an interviewer for HYP, he sees plenty of kids with great grades and test scores who enirely lack intellectual curiosity (of all ethnicities).  They don't get in.  And yes, it is my opinion that the Kumon tutoring track stifles intellectual curiosity and promotes rote learning.[/quote]

We already went through this up thread.  Harvard is 18% Asian.  Asians are competing against other Asians.  Harvard would be majority Asian too if they did not look at race but purely merit.[/quote]

So say the disgruntled students who didn't get in.[/quote]

The Asian population in the US is around 5% so 18% at Harvard means they are very over represente.[/quote]

You do realize that jews at 2% of the population and are 20-25% of Harvard population - ie double/triple the 'over-representation'.  no one ever points that out. The whole 'over-representation' thing is such a ridiculous argument. [/quote]

There used to be a Jewish quota at the Ivies, the main reason Feynman went to MIT instead of Columbia.  They don't apply quotas to Jews at the Ivies anymore (thus your number of 20-25% at Harvard now) but it is disingenuous to claim that the elite schools do not use some kind of *soft* quota for Asians now to keep them from becoming a majority like most of the top UCA universities.[/quote]

I am agreeing with you that elite schools USE soft quotas against asians. my point was  more of a question as to why do people always complain about asian so-called 'over-representation' but never jewish 'over-representation'? Since the latter is never said, shouldn't the argument of over-representation not be used across the board? [/quote]

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