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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Black people are not allowed to protest police brutality because many of them are poor and many blacks kill other blacks." I'm sorry I just don't get the rationale. [/quote] No one is saying that they shouldnt protest but the reality is the people involved had criminal pasts or the officers had mental issues. Also the number of black on black crime is more and both are serious issues although the other is ignored more.[/quote] So you think issues of crime and violence are ignored in predominately black communities and they should focus their dissent on those issues instead of on police brutality. Ehhh...kind of makes sense but it raises two questions in my mind. #1 - what makes you think crime and violence are ignored? I don't want to be presumptuous but I have my doubts that you are familiar with the outcries of predominantly black communities and the outreach attempts of the various churches, community organizations, and families who proactively put forth a great deal of effort to stop the violence in their neighborhoods. When you say "ignored" I think you're misconstruing the little to no media coverage of their efforts as indicative of little to no actual concern and action in these communities. #2 - what does the criminal past of someone have to do with them being denied equal treatment under the law? Again I don't want to be presumptuous but it sounds like you're suggesting that black criminals are not citizens of this country and not even human for that matter, and that's disturbing. I know you don't feel that way but it sounds like you're justifying just opening fire on blacks and just killing them on sight without due process and without any respect for their rights because they broke the law or because they are a perceived threat and that's just wrong. That mentality is what leads to 12 year-old's getting gunned down on playgrounds for holding a toy gun. [/quote]#1 I said it was ignored more meaning that less attention is paid to it. I lived in a majority black community for years and know the efforts put in by locals but the problem with most of it was that kids or young people involved in those drug or crime activities didnt have much parent supervision, guidance, single mom households, and the problem persisted. 2# its well known that most of the victims in the media sensation stories were thugs and also all officers can react the same way if they feel their life is in danger, even if they are black or white but that is due to lack of proper training I believe. For example, in florida a black cop went to the home of a latino family then the girl went in her home left the door open and out ran her little dog which the officer immediately shot to death. Lack of proper training and dumb moves.[/quote] Well, first of all, I would suggest you reconsider your choice of words then seeing how ignore (definition: refuse to take notice of or acknowledge; disregard intentionally) is not a synonym for "pay less attention to". Second of all, you still haven't explained why you think its okay for police officers to ignore (as in disregard intentionally) the protocol regarding "appropriate use of force" when mitigating an incident, making an arrest, or protecting themselves or others from harm. The last time I checked being a thug doesn't excuse someone from due process nor does being a thug in and of itself warrant officers to outright murder unarmed civilians as opposed to using non-lethal means to detain or apprehend a suspect. Once again I don't mean to be presumptuous but it still sounds like you're advocating killing people without just cause because they're perceived as "inferior" and that attitude is indeed something that demands protest. [/quote] Uhh hence why I said "ignored MORE" not completely ignored. If you ignore a bigger issue more than another issue that mostly has to do with proper training then you arent paying attention to the bigger issue as much as you should. I didnt say it was okay for officers to not use proper protocol. What are you talking about? I just said that they arent and of course they should be! Lol stop with the crazy talk about advocating killing people but if the thugs killed or hurt people should the officer defend himself? There are lots of stories where officers didnt do anything and the thug ended up killing them. There was a story about a black thug who shot down a hispanic rookie cop and then bragged about it before he was caught. It didnt make big news though I wonder why?[/quote] So if you're not saying its okay for officers to not use proper protocol when mitigating an incident, making an arrest, or protecting themselves or others from harm then what exactly are you saying...that it's excusable because thugs exist in this world? [i]Yeah cops shouldn't have just pulled up to the scene and jumped out of their squad car and started firing multiple rounds at a 12 year-old kid but its excusable because one time there was this thug who shot down a Hispanic rookie cop..."[/i] That doesn't make much sense. Look, we all know that being a police officer is a stressful occupation as the work often involves daily contact with drunks, the mentally disabled and violent criminals in difficult situations and the threat of injury is a constant one. Yet and still, just because there is stress and danger associated with police work that doesn't give officers free reign to ignore (as in disregard intentionally) professionalism and protocol. If anything police work demands the utmost professionalism and the strictest application of proper protocol when dealing with the general public and exercising deadly force - but instead predominantly when it comes to policing black communities we see the exact opposite. Instead we see even more gross negligence of people's rights, we see even more blatant acts of overaggressive policing, and we see even more instances of law enforcement simply shrugging their shoulders after the fact when officers wave the "I was scared" flag and absolve themselves of culpability whenever they (Oops!!) kill an unarmed civilian. In a predominantly white community such gross negligence and improper protocol and blatant misuse of force would not be tolerated and officers would see their asses fired, sued, and imprisoned left and right - but in black communities across the country this stuff goes on and nothing happens. It took over a year for charges to be filed against the officer in Chicago and that was only because a judge FORCED the video to be released. It's been over a year and the officer who shot and killed 12 year-old Tamir Rice hasn't been charged. Nothing happens to these officers. Their free to fire at will and take the lives of unarmed civilians and use lethal force when it isn't even necessary and then they get right back on the beat with no repercussions, given a free pass to do it again. It demands protest.[/quote]
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