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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Sadly, the only one's really being hurt in all of this are the truly gifted kids.  They are still not getting the special education that would meet them at their appropriate level nor do they have a classroom environment that is appropriate to meet their needs.[/quote]
Seriously, what happens to needy gifted kids when AAP ends after middle school?  Please don't say AP or IB, because that can't possibly be enough for the students you describe.  After all, anyone can enroll in those classes.  [/quote]

And what is really interesting is that sometimes the [b]non-AAP kids do better in the AP and IB classes.  [/b]"Giftedness" isn't necessarily about achieving, so even if there were special "gifted" classes for high schoolers, it wouldn't necessarily be an improvement.   Plus, even gifted students have presumably learned how to handle school without special accommodation by 14 and up.  [/quote]

Without a doubt![/quote]

I wouldn't doubt it. I have/have had three kids in the AA program and none of them are super high achievers. They are often scattered, disorganized and reluctant to study for a test. They are naturally bright, but don't necessarily care a whole lot about achievement. They have both AA and non-AA peers who are the stereotypical overachiever types who go above and beyond at every opportunity and beat themselves up for an A-.  I think sometimes people think that all AAP kids are like that, when it's often the opposite.[/quote]

There are many students like this -- underachievement happens frequently.

http://www.giftedstudy.org/newsletter/pdf/underachievement_handbook.pdf

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Guess those gifted kids who are underachievers may pick up on some techniques from those in AAP who some of you are looking down on as intellectually inferior to your geniuses.  Since there is often group work, the high achievers can help pull your kids along with time management, goal orientation, focus, etc.[/quote]

Sadly your logic is flawed.  My genius (and that is documented) DC is being held back academically by your high achieving DC.  The curriculum is still moving too slow for the top 1% of the aap class, which cause many of these kids to derail because they are bored or frustrated with the rate of academics and check out waiting for your kid to catch up.  Meanwhile, your DC is a brown nosing, high achiever that many teachers love to teach because they are "easy" to have as students (behavior, not academic achievement).  My DC is bored in math because kids have failed the tests and are being given the opportunity retake them.  Clearly, these kids are slowing down the rate at which the material can be taught.

So, the curriculum is slowed so that your little snowflake can have a chance to keep up, which causes my DC to not receive the amount of academic instructions/rigor that is deserved.  Then my DC's executive functioning issue get worse because she's bored with the slow curriculum.  Finally, the teacher's who should be hired to teach actual gifted children are frustrated by my DC's disorganization and constant reading because my DC is checking out due to being bored.

Failed attempt....try again.

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My child has a "documented" 150 FSIQ.   She's still high achieving, not failing, not derailing, not holding anyone back, not frustrated, not frustrating, and not checking out.  My child LOVES to read - wakes up reading, goes to sleep reading, reads at meals (if she is allowed), in the car, etc...but does not "check out" in school because of reading.  Your post, however, explains a lot of your flawed reasoning.  Your child is having all of those issues, as well as disorganization, as part of some executive functioning issues.  By placing her wayyyyyyy up above others intellectually (in your mind), you can use that to excuse her boredom, frustration, disorganization , etc.  Stop trying to blame others.  It makes it far easier to accept flaws when you can blame someone else, though, doesn't it?[/quote]

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