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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous] I'm very familiar with thus case and the CEOs trust me, what the press says and what happened is not congruent. Everyone knows he was singled out, targeted, and hung out to dry. [/quote] Well, if "everyone" knows it, that settles it. Certainly, we should trust "everyone" rather than what we read in the press. BTW, I am also very familiar with the case. I visited the Memphis plant a few days before it was raided. I own two Gibson guitars and followed the case very closely. The violations discovered in the second round of raids were clearly justified by the false paperwork used to import the wood. It turned out that the violations were not that severe and that the Indian government probably didn't care in the first place. That is probably why the case was settled favorably to Gibson. Henry Juszkiewicz made a huge mistake by running to the right-wingers and acting like a victim of an over-zealous government. He alienated guitar players who care about the environment. In contrast, companies like Taylor and Martin who are much more forward thinking. That's why I bought a Taylor at that time. [/quote] Use your damn head. When you are raided by a SWAT team for freaking fingerboards - twice - it's not about wood. Bob Taylor himself told me that they get their wood the same way that Gibson does, and he didn't understand it. The Indian government disputes the 'false paperwork' and the government admits 'confusion'. Yet it was only Gibson raided, and only Gibson that had to pay settle and be financially raped in order to get their wood back. There is no need to go into a guitar factory - twice - at gunpoint. Gibson only alienated progressive guitar players who believe the media. [/quote] Fact: The final destination listed on the Customs form was incorrect. Fact: The wood was classified classified with a tariff code for finished wood when it was actually unfinished. [b]It is true that the Indian government takes a fairy liberal attitude toward what it considers "finished", but the Customs folk probably wouldn't have known that.[/b] As for the "SWAT team", you act like guys came swinging in on ropes through the windows shooting anything that moved. The agents followed their standard procedures. There are a lot of folks beyond right-wingers concerned about Gibson who have complained about the militarization of polices agencies. When those same agents are going after minorities, you guys are normally very supportive. [/quote] Horse-shit. There is no need to go in at gunpoint - TWICE. That was the Feds. http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/05/28/gibson-guitar-knows-why-the-federal-government-raided-them/[/quote]
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