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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“I got into medical school because I said I was black,” Chokal-Ingam writes at his blog Almost Black. “The funny thing is I’m not. . . . My plan actually worked. Lucky for you, I never became a doctor.” http://www.nationalreview.com/article/416473/smash-bamboo-ceiling-racial-quotas-john-fund[/quote] OMG. Not this again. He got into ONE medical school as a Black man, a school to which he didn't apply the first time around and in a totally different admissions cycle. [/quote] He says as an Indian, his chances of admission were about 17%. As a black man, those odds jumped to 79%[/quote] Here's the relevant piece: "He soon won interviews at Harvard and Columbia and a spot on waiting lists at the University of Pennsylvania, Washington University, and Mt. Sinai. He eventually went to Saint Louis University Medical School but dropped out after two years." He got waitlisted at some good schools but didn't get in. So, yes, maybe being "Black" got him an interview that he wouldn't have gotten as an Indian. But it didn't win him acceptance. But even if it were true that it's easier to get into medical school as a Black man, I'm 100% fine with that. Black men and women have some of the lowest life expectancies in the country, much of that due to untreated chronic conditions. In addition to healthcare reform, we also need more African American doctors to work in Black communities, and Latino doctors in Latino communities. In fact, medical school is one of the professional programs in which I think affirmative action is the most defensible, given the realities of where people choose to work and the degree to which marginalized communities are more likely to seek medical care from people who share their cultural/racial background. Right now, about 4% of US doctors identify as Black, compared to 13% of the US population. On the other hand, about 18% of doctors are Asian, compared to about 5% of the US population. This is a great paper by the AAMC about the issue of racial diversity in medicine and the positive impact of having more African American and Latino doctors: https://www.aamc.org/download/87306/data/physiciandiversityfacts.pdf[/quote] So you are all for lowering the standards so those Affirmative Action doctors can work on you? Sounds good to me! I want a doctor who was able to coast due to race :roll: [/quote] Your racism and ignorance are showing. 1) AA doesn't mean unqualified people are accepted. It means that once a person has qualified, other factors, including race, are considered more heavily than test scores. 2) Test scores underpredict the performance of certain ethnic groups in school. They should be adjusted to refect the group's actual performance in school .[/quote] No it doesn't mean they are all under qualified. But it does mean the standards to get in had to be lowered in order for them TO qualify. Same thing has been proven re: firefighters, etc. Why should RACE be considered more than how someone tests? You want to take the chance that test scores under predict performance when someone has you open on the table? Or when your unconscious body is lying in a burning building? This isn't a question of someone performing really well in school and testing poorly. This is about a completely different sent of standards for one race than there is for another.[/quote]
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