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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Again - with a very tiny exception, the vast majority of AAP kids are normal. There's a huge overlap between AAP and Gen Ed kids, as all of us know. If we were talking about GT, from more than a decade ago, then yes, those kids were exceptional. But the pendulum has swung so far in the other direction that the AAP of today is simply not a gifted model any longer. There is no need for FCPS to continue creating an artificial "peer group" for a massive group of basically mainstream kids.[/b]

+100  Well said and so true!  [/quote]

I would say, by and large, 20-30% of the kids in GenED could do fine in AAP, and would be no different than 1/2 the AAP students.  Whether that is a huge overlap or not is up to interpretation.  Like any cutoff, there will be issues at the edges.  Certainly, the best non-AAP student is smarter  than the worst AAP student.  But, the top half of AAP are certainly smarter that the vast majority of non-AAP student.  But, if you cut the boundary so that AAP was half the size, you would still end up with issues at the edges.

FCPS has created a system where the kids that [b]NEED[/b] AAP are getting in (at probably the 99.5% level).  To do that, they also admit 3-4x as many kids that do not need it, but will do fine in it.

I think that is actually a good tradeoff.[/quote]

I disagree.  By admitting only the students who absolutely [b]need[/b] a different learning environment - and that number has got to be minuscule - AAP would become more similar to what GT once was.  There wouldn't be this ridiculous jockeying to get in because it would be understood that AAP was a special ed program, reserved [b]only[/b] for kids with exceptional ability.  [/quote]

Disagree.

Having a kid who is at that upper 99% range in multiple testing scenarios, what you describe (a miniscule group of students only in the upper 99% range) is one of the worst possible ideas, particularly at the elementary level.

A center program that is about two, maybe three classes is ideal. What you are proposing would be very negative for those kids at the very top.
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The very tiny portion of kids "at the top" shouldn't be dictating how the majority of kids are taught.  [/quote]

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