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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm 30, and I completely agree.

Many women want marriage but have been conditioned to be the "cool girl" and not to talk about it in a relationship. So they bumble along, giving the guy everything he wants and just hoping he'll eventually bring up marriage.

I don't like her radio show, too screechy, but Dr. Laura's advice in 10 Stupid Things Women Do to Mess Up Their Lives is very good. Her books are excellent, even if they aren't what people want to hear.

I'm a liberal atheist, by the way. It has absolutely nothing to do with conservative values or thinking sex before marriage is bad for me. It's all about how much I see women not getting what they want or not even being honest with themselves about what they want until they've wasted a lot of prime years. [/quote]

+1[/quote]

I really have to agree too.

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28 year old. I agree too.

My entire life all I wanted to do was being married. I'm very romantic. I didn't want to seem like that kind of girl though, so I never, ever brought up marriage with DH. I pretty much had a breakdown on our 3rd anniversary though. I don't know why I felt like I couldn't bring up marriage- DH and I had the best relationship ever, but I just couldn't. Women who want to get married are very stigmatized. DH proposed a few weeks later because he wanted marriage too but didn't know that I wanted it just yet. Women are often afraid to show a [b]female side[/b]. [/quote]

You mean women are often afraid to say what they really want and act accordingly.  If marriage is what you want, there is no shame in that.  Just don't date a perpetual bachelor and hope to change him.  If you don't want to get married, nothing wrong with that either.  Have as much sex as you want and don't let anyone make you feel guilty about it.

Oh, and regarding the "don't date the perpetual bachelor" please don't tell me that you can't help who you love.  Yes, you very much can.  I have never, ever, EVER fallen in love with a person without actually trying to do so.  [/quote]

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