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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"So, you don't care about the children at your school who started out advanced and are now only proficient?"

If I thought their education was being short-changed, then I would care.  I do not think they are being shortchanged, ergo, I am unfazed by the test scores.  I suppose narrowly construed, that means I "don't care" about the test scores specifically.  That is not at all tantamount to saying I don't care about the education at Latin.  [/quote]

I just think you should care about the direction of the test scores of the kids year over year - not going up but rather going down, not the scores themselves.  I think it is kind of ironic that the popularity rose while the quality in some ways declined.  Slipping to Tier 2 looking at the focus graph makes it seem inevitable.  I guess maybe they don't care anymore because they had 4 years to do something about it.........

[quote]Since 2010, the number of kids scoring Advanced at Latin MS has been on the decline. This decline is not due to the departure of bright kids, though, at least not entirely. The median growth percentile has also been on the decline at Latin MS since 2010:

Year -- Reading MGP -- Math MGP 
2011 -- 63.5% -- 52.2% 
2012 -- 56.9% -- 44.8% 
2013 -- 46.0% -- 46.0% 
2014 -- 42.8% -- 39.8%

The MGP data point to a multi-year trend of Advanced kids falling behind at Latin MS. Why is this happening?[/quote]

Now that they are all staying, not having them for all 3 years is not an excuse, and again, their progress year over year is being measured by how they scored the following year compared to how kids scored at other schools the following year.

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Deal 65% of kids at the school scored higher on the DC CAS in 2014 than they did in 2013
Latin 39.8% of kids at the school scored higher on the DC CAS in 2014 than they did in 2013
average DC school 50% of kids score higher on the DC CAS on average year to year
average school does DC CAS drill and kill
Deal and Latin don't.  And they score the highest overall.

I understand that happiness is very important, especially in middle school, but so is progress.  
This was a steady decline the MS failed to stop.  There is no way they did not know about it.
This is why they dropped down to Tier 2, where they have never been before.  And these are the kids who are now entering the high school.

And it makes me really sad.
It means that while a ton is going right, something is going wrong, and there is no way they did not notice it.
I just wonder whether they changed some policy in 2010 that made this happen.
Or whether they could not figure it out and how it is possible given the great education they offer in the MS.
Because every other Tier I school (and the top DCPS schools) have growth that has continued to go up for the last 4 years - so it was not like the huge rise across the board in the DC CAS scores in 2010

Fortunately we now have the PARCC, which is supposed to better measure critical thinking.
So maybe after two years the Latin MS will have a progress school that could move them back up to Tier I?
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