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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Across cultures and time there has been a general category of acts deemed immoral.  This is the case with those who worshiped a sun god and those who worship the Christian God.  One general principle is that it is wrong to harm other people.

The "no morals" poster may think that we who believe in morals are crazy but s/he is wrong to draw the line of the argument between believers and not.  How does believing in a god change the human sense that certain things are wrong and right? In his/her own obnoxious way, I assume they would just say that believing a book contains with word of god is another form of fairytale. [/quote]

I'm not drawing a line.  I believe both religious people are nuts and atheists who believe in morals are nuts.  There is no god and there are no morals.  God and morals are both fairy tales.  I'm a real atheist, not some mamby pamby atheist who makes up morals.  And I certainly don't believe in God.[/quote]

You don't get to appropriate the word atheist for yourself, change the meaning to add "no morals," and then call yourself a true atheist against most atheists who believe in morals.

If you're not just trying to make atheists look bad, I wonder if your anger stems from your inability to completely squash the internal voice you have telling you that some things are morally right and wrong.[/quote]

I don't feel any anger.  I just feel wonderment that anybody would feel any reason at all to do things that hurt themselves.  I think we all should do whatever is best for ourselves that we think we can get away with. [/quote]

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